Floyd Joy Sinclair Mayweather vs. Terence Allan Crawford

It’s hard to say - clearly Mayweather is the “greater” of the two, his resume speaks for itself far more than Crawfords. But having said that, we don’t have many yardsticks from Floyd’s career to show how he would match up against Crawford.

Floyd famously “avoided” southpaws/switch hitters, and rarely fought anyone he didn’t have a reach advantage over. So Crawford would be a problem for Floyd in both categories.
The other thing is that Crawford is physically strong in the clinch, and can be a very spiteful fighter when he wants to be. Against a fellow counterpuncher - a safety first one at that - this would be another advantage.

I find myself leaning Crawford in an 147 fight. Even though Floyd is clearly the greater fighter.

 

Spence pulled out of his fight vs Fundora so it doesn't matter what you "believe" the facts are different.

Pacquiao become a champion after losing to Mayweather, Spence has done diddly squat since his loss to Crawford with rumours he has brain trauma.

So obviously Spence and his team don't have the same confidence you have.

 

Yes but you're a notorious Mayweather lover so you have an agenda and can't debate honestly or without bias in regards to Mayweather hence your opinion is not to be taken serious but I'll easily refute your points.

Mayweather avoided Mosley until he was nearly age 40.

Mayweather could have gone up to super welterweight and fought Forrest and Trinidad - after all, he demanded old Marquez move up from lightweight to welterweight, and Hatton move up from super-lightweight to welterweight.

Mayweather had never been in the kind of wars Pacquiao had been in, he retired for a couple of years because there were too many good fighters at welterweight at the time.

Marquez was old and much smaller than Mayweather. Floyd couldn't even make the catchweight a couple of pounds below welterweight. Floyd's long reach advantage made it impossible for Marquez.

Floyd had freakishly long arms, at 26" the same as Wladimir Klitschko's, according to HBO. Another fighter he avoided was Williams (Floyd retired for a couple of years to avoid prime Margarito, Mosley, and Cotto), because for once, he wouldn't have had an arm length advantage.

 

Lol.

The Pac who fought so and so is irrelevant. We are talking about the Pacquiao who fought Mayweather. Don't misdirect.

That Pac > Spence, let alone the Spence who has done nothing since Crawford put him through a third car wreck.

Size does matter, so does the mental and physical state of said boxer. Would you not consider that having your face shattered by being thrown out of a Ferrari at over 100 miles per hour might make you lesser? Lesser physically? Mentally?

Spence psychology was destroyed.

Spence was then and is now done. No amount of word jujitsu changes that.

 

Firstly i'm not a Mayweather lover i don't even like him but i can debate honestly about a resume whether i like a fighter or not.

Again let's compare our agenda on Mayweather shall we ?

Look at my profile see how many threads i've made about Mayweather ? 0.

How many threads have you made about Mayweather to discredit him ? numerous times.

You haven't refuted 1 single point in this thread so far.

He was 38 P4P number 3 and coming off one of his career best showings vs Margarito.

Mayweather was at Super Featherweight when Trinidad had his last fight at Welterweight in 1999 what part of 3 weightclasses apart do you not understand ?

When Forrest was winning and losing to Mosley, Mayorga, in 2002/2003 Mayweather was campaigning at Lightweight ? again i don't care what false narrative you want to create because you have an agenda. The timelines and the weightclasses the fighters were fighting at don't match up to fantasy scenario that you want to create.

And ? i guess Mayweather had a better defence ? what do you want me to say to that ?

So i should discredit Mayweather because he wasn't in as many wars ?

The facts are both fighters were past their best but Pacquiao showed he still had a considerable amount left in the tank as beat Bradley and become a champion after losing to Mayweather.

Spence has done nothing since losing to Crawford his mental state is completely shot and he seems like has no interest in fighting anymore.

Gamboa was also much smaller than Crawford ? infact the size difference between Gamboa/Crawford was much apparent.

Gamboa is 5'4 with a 65 inch reach vs Crawford 5'8 74 inch reach.

Marquez is 5'7 with a with a 67 inch reach vs Mayweather 5'8 72 inch reach.

And Crawford is also naturally bigger than Mayweather.

 

This is an absolutely insane thing to say about an inactive, drained, post-car crash Errol Spence, who has not fought since.

 

At 135/140, Mayweather wins by stoppage

At 147 and higher, Mayweather wins by decision

 

I'll take Mayweather on points at 130-135 pounds.

I'll take Crawford on points 140 pounds or above.

Mayweather was accurate but he was low volume at the higher weights. His power was non-existent too. I think Crawford could simply outwork him at the higher weights and had the power to hurt Mayweather. At the lower weights, Mayweather was more active and he also had better power. I also think he was more a finished product than Crawford was at the lower weights.

It's also more of a purist dream because I don't think it makes for a compelling fight, I think both guys nullify each other. It wouldn't be a barnburner.

 

What's with always including the fighters middle name in your thread titles?

Who cares what their middle names are?

 

On one hand, Crawford faced the beat fighters he could almost every single fight, whilst Floyd carefully meandered his way through a HOF resume.

On the other, the guys Floyd beat are better than the guys Crawford beat, and he looked better in beating them.

Floyd points.

 

For me, it's pretty simple. To beat Mayweather you have to have something physically special about you. Bud is a great fighter and is my favorite active fighter but the only thing truly special about him is his killer instinct. Mayweather would have struggled with Ray Leonard's speed and Thomas Hearn's length because those skills would have forced Money to do things he didn't want to do. I don't think Crawford has the ability to do that.

Mayweather 116-112.

 

135 lbs Floyd mid difficulty
140 lbs Floyd hard difficulty
147 lbs Floyd super hard difficulty

Floyd had athleticism Bud never had at the lighter weights. Once he aged and slowed down, only then would it have been closer.