Floyd Jr. would be a better boxer if I had trained him, says coach Freddie Roach

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  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...says-Manny-Pacquiaos-coach-Freddie-Roach.html

    Freddie Roach, Manny Pacquiao's coach, says he could have improved Floyd Mayweather as a boxer.

    "I would have liked to train Floyd. He makes so many mistakes. He's gifted but he makes a lot of mistakes," Roach told The Telegraph.

    "He rolls but he doesn't counter. He doesn't come back with what that roll created. Those are things that Eddie Futch taught me but I wasn't talented enough to do that."
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    being 6x trainer of the year, he has the credibility to say it.
     
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  2. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I swear Roach is begging Floyd to turn on the style LOL

    Roach is like that little kid saying his brother can kick the bullies ass, and the brother is like, " shut up, you're going to get me killed " LOL
     
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  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He would have been knocked out too.
     
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  4. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roach is a good trainer, but vastly overrated imo. He's an offensive trainer, but as far as technique, he isn't near the best. I dont think he has a phenomenal ring iq. James Toney learned much of what he knows from Bill Miller. Virgil Hunter learned in the amateurs. Don't get me wrong, Freddie is a Futch protege and is a top notch trainer, I just feel his status is a bit overblown.
     
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  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Nah, Floyd has a granite chin.

    But he would have taken much more damage.
     
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  6. IntentionalTHUM

    IntentionalTHUM Guest

    Are you dum

    Floyd has a little girl chin you ducker
     
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  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    :hi::hi:

    TKO6!!!
     
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  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    correction...roach is 7x boxing writers of america association's (bwaa) trainer of the year.
     
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  9. Big-Business

    Big-Business Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone can get K.O Lewis got K.O....does that mean Steward was a bad trainer??!!! :patsch
     
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  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I never said Roach was a bad trainer, he's one of the best. Doesn't mean he fits with everyone.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    But was he only trainer of the year because he had the best fighter of the last generation under him? Nacho Beristain and Emanuel Steward always struck me as better trainers. Freddie Roach had Khan and Linares under his tutelage and they both got repeatedly knocked out. They stop training under him, and they stop getting knocked out. Meanwhile, Pacquiao got knocked out.

    This suggests, to me anyway, that Freddie is good at teaching the offensive side of boxing but not so good at the defensive side. Floyd Mayweather is a master of defensive boxing but has no real offense. Who knows if you can take a guy with Floyd's natural athleticism and train him to be just as good offensively, or well rounded, or if being a great defensive fighter is the best possible style for him? Obviously though, there's no arguing with the results him and his uncle have had over the years.
     
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  12. Beast-Mode

    Beast-Mode Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You had me up until this statement. SMDH!
     
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  13. Cinderella Man

    Cinderella Man Deleebr 'eem into mahands Full Member

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    Freddie sure talks a lot of sh*t recently.
     
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  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    :think

    i remember not too long ago when most joyboys were quoting roach as the truth.
     
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  15. Godlovkin

    Godlovkin Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nah, Roach and Floyd wouldn't mesh well

    Roach wants to breed warriors and Floyd is anything but that
     
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