Floyd just don't want the risk!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by at1, Dec 25, 2009.


  1. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao's been busted open during boxing matches on multiple occasions. Come on now, you know a few blood test would not weaken him. Most of us have had blood test before and they do absolutely nothing to you. Olympic athletes do these test all the time throughout the Olympics and they perform just fine. You do realize Mayweather will be taking the same test as well right?
     
  2. el_caviteno

    el_caviteno Member Full Member

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    Of course I realize that Junior will be taking the test as well. But what you fail to realize is that PAC has admitted that he doesn't want the blood test before his fight because it'll weaken him. However, he has agreed to do it after the fight. It may not be acceptable to any of us, but if he believes it puts him at a mental and physical disadvantage, he has every right to refuse.

    In addition, just because MOST OF US aren't affected by blood tests, doesn't mean OTHERS won't be. I can't speak for PAC. He knows himself best. I see him as wanting to be 100% prepared for what could possibly be the biggest fight of his life. Why should he go into the fight just to appease the unprecedented demands of Junior's camp at the risk of not giving or performing his best? It's not like he flat out refused the tests. He just wants it done once the fight is over. That sounds reasonable to me.
     
  3. Gerard

    Gerard Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd wants to know whether Manny is not using illegal aids throughout the training camp. A fixed test after the fight will not catch that (as certain illegal aids can even clear up after three days. Countermeasures could be taken since anticipation for the test is possible).
    Random during the camp is the most effective way of proving that no illegal aids are used throughout the camp.
    That's why it is done this way during Olympics (even with boxers).
    Also they don't test 48-24 hours before the fight, so 48-24 hours should be long enough to recover from giving away less than a spoon blood.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Claiming to be afraid of losing strength from a sample of blood being taken two days before a fight is a pretty lame excuse, sorry. I understand you guys love Pacquiao more than your own mothers, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes. This is some shady ****.
     
  5. el_caviteno

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    Let me ask you this, what is/are Juniors' camp concrete proof that PAC is on roids? PAC has passed every test before and after his fights. Why do you think they're subjecting PAC to something like this? And before you answer that read the article below if you haven't already:


    Promoter balked at blood testing for Mosley in 2008 By J. Michael Falgoust, USA TODAY


    Just last year, Golden Boy Promotions was against blood testing when one of its fighters, Shane Mosley, was asked to submit to it for a fight in Las Vegas.

    Mosley, who admitted to taking designer steroids in 2003 inadvertently before a fight with Golden Boy president Oscar De La Hoya, consented to any form of drug testing before facing Zab Judah but the promoter objected.

    Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer told AP at the time that he'd consent to whatever testing that was required by Nevada State Athletic Commission and nothing more. The NSAC tests urine before and after fights but not blood at random like the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

    A proposed March 13 superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather has fallen through over Olympic-style drug testing. Mayweather wanted the Filipino to accept random blood testing by USADA. Pacquiao agreed to three tests, including two before their bout.

    "Whatever tests they want them to take, Shane will submit to that. We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires," Schaefer said. "The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one."

    Judah wanted testing immediately on Mosley as well as right before and after the bout. Judah was injured before the fight could take place and it was cancelled.

    Mosley, who is facing Andre Berto on Jan. 30, is a potential future opponent for Pacquiao.


    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...oodtests_N.htm
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If that don't make a case for slander, libel and defamation I don't know what will.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    its not shady considering that Pacquiao has accepted to take drug tests from other agencies who do not test up to the day of the fight

    and either way its not shady considering that the request to be tested is coming from his opponent and not the regulatory body of the sport.

    So I know you have never liked Manny Pacquiao, but put aside your bias and you'll see his decision is definately not shady at all.
     
  8. Totomabs

    Totomabs Sauna Belt Holder Full Member

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    actually, with all the BASELESS accusations hurled by the mayweather camp, pac has a strong case..

    and now i also realized how floyd is truly scared of pacquiao because of this *****-ass move about imaginary roids, lol!

    if somehow this fight still gets made and pacquiao ktfo's mayweather, esb will be a much happier place without the joyboys around, lol!
     
  9. SoxNation

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    Pacquiao won't be weakened by a small test. If getting busted open during a fight doesn't, you know a blood test days before the fight won't. Olympic Athletes do it all the time and with thousands and thousands of Olympians out there I've never heard of this happening before. You know this won't bother Pacquiao or anyone else. How does taking a teaspoon of blood in a test weaken you, but being in a boxing match with fighters much bigger than you won't? No, he didn't flat out refuse the test, but he flat out refused random testing. That alone should tell you something.
     
  10. Totomabs

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    believe me philla, sweetie tried his damn best to appreciate pac's greatness but it just won't work because of the pain pac causes him everytime pac wins, defies logic and disproving the so-called "learned critics" wrong, lol!
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    I've been the one calling Floyd a ***** all along, until I actually did some research on it. It's a simple blood test. There are obvious ways around standard steroid tests, everyone with a brain and an ounce of logic knows that. This will make certain that Pacquiao is not using performance enhancing drugs, which had come under scrutinity even before Mayweather Sr. brought it up. Pacquiao's blatant refusal and backlash just makes it all the more suspicious to me. It really shouldn't come as that big a surprise though, it's not like he'd be the first athlete or boxer to use them. In all likelyhood, the number of athletes who've used them and the number who've been caught are worlds apart.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    Pacquiao is far greater than Floyd, unless of course he's a juicing fraud. Then again it doesn't look like it can be proven because he'll just sue everyone who brings it up. I'll expect my own letter in the mail by Monday.
     
  13. mancat

    mancat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who are you fighting next? I hope you do well.
     
  14. Quarteysjab

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    floyd is a fake, so what if he agrred to all those terms - but knew all along he would find some way out of the fight. floyd is a master fraud, he doesn't want the fight, never did, as evidenced by his BBC interview after Cotto lost to Pac.

    only fools beleive the deceptive words and actions of the fraud named floyd.
     
  15. el_caviteno

    el_caviteno Member Full Member

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    I can't speak for everyone, especially not for PAC. But there are threads on here where people who actually draw blood for a living have shared from their ****ing experiences the negative effects that blood tests have had on GROWN MEN. Visit the ****ing link below and LEARN.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194873