Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

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  1. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    :lol:It was the gayest i could find that would fit.


    Mosley outright clammed up against Mayweather.Adapting doesn't even come into it really.He could have went hell for leather, but that isn't in his nature.

    I recently watched the absolutely awesome effort Bouttier gave in his rematch with Monzon, once it became yet again apparent he wasn't going to win with his usual tidy outboxing, so maybe i'm more critical than i should be, but i'd like to see more current fighters do that in the big fights, especially one as hyped as this and involving such an experienced guy like Shane.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Monzon-Bouttier II is my favourite Monzon fight.
     
  3. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Bouttier is an iron man.I'm talking about the one that goes the distance by the way.I always forget if it's the first or second one.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, that is the rematch.

    Do you think Monzon was slipping by then? Griffith would to the ditance too.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    That was the year he got shot wasn't it?.

    Definitely his least impressive performances as a champ.I think he got sharper again after those fights, but his best was definitely early in his reign.
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those rights almost separated him from his consciouness, lora. After that, Shane gun's became water pistols.
     
  7. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Whats naive is comparing a five time world champion to a 19 year old prospect.
    Do you consider Lennox Lewis elite? I do. What adversity did he face throughout his career? Getting knocked out and then winning a rematch doesnt prove your greatness.
     
  8. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah in 2000 he probably would have settled for getting himself knocked out. :roll:
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    What the hell are you rambling on about.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If anything, Shane was disarmed after the drama in round 2. He had nothing to fend off Mayweather, not even a water pistol.
     
  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis is not elite if you are talking about the top 20 or 25 guys who ever lived. He's an elite HW, sure.

    And either way, he did face adversity. Stopping both guys who KOd him in the returns is nothing to sneeze at. That fight with Mercer was not exactly easy either. And Ruddock was adversity personified when Lennox stepped into the ring with him.

    Did you watch the fight with Vitali? You think it was easy?
     
  12. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He had plenty to fend off Mayweather, but he forgot it all. I don't think that the problem was age, or even his limitations in terms of skill. It may have been psychological. Floyd's brilliance and yes, even his power, may have unnerved Shane.

    Even so, I appreciated Larry's rebuke in the post-fight interview... "Shane, you've been a professional for 17 years. How could you tense up?"
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Mosley couldn't get his shots off; Marquez could, Hatton could, De La Hoya could, but Mosley couldn't. I can't make much sense of that.
     
  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Me neither. And to try would invade the realm of psycho-analysis.

    This is one of the several shadows of boxing: Losing can not only be humiliating, it can also mean that the loser is going to live with real regret forevermore. Shane, to some degree, has damned himself. Some day, he'll be muttering about this in a nursing home.

    I know of a man who was once on a baseball little league team when he was 8. His team made it to the play-offs. Top of the ninth, his team is behind by 1 run. Bases loaded. Tying run at 3rd base. He's at bat. Full count. The pitch. He freezes. It's a strike. He's in his 30s now and tries not to think about it.

    He should have at least went down swinging.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Not a mark on him, and a gracious interview.

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