Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

Is this a serious post, the more skilled and higher ability the less adversity they are going to face.

Mayweather has faced adversity before though. See the first Castillo fight where he fights a monster, gets hurt, rematching Castillo and beating him, and pulls through despite being injured, Hernandez fight where he breaks both hands, Corley where he was stunned, Judah where he was outsped, Hatton caught him with a big bodyshot and hurt him at 1 stage. Then theres the fact he fights much bigger men. Then when he does come through adversity, the fact he gets hit shows 'he wasnt that good after all'

Mayweather isnt great because hes 41-0, hes great because hes been fighting world champions and top contenders over 5 fight weight classes and dominating them over a period of 12years. Comparitively Marcianos 49-0 comprimised about 4-5years at the top, with far less contenders on his ledger.

 

None of those fighters landed clean punches, they were mainly hitting gloves/elbows/shoulders. Mosley at least managed to land , he landed a few down stretch too, the problem was he was looking for a chance to land something big and couldnt find it. I'd still think he landed more than JMM

The main difference was Mosley was the easiest of the 3 to hit and everytime he punched, was slipped and countered. So he stopped wanting to throw knowing he'd get the worse of it. He also didnt have a good straight jab so was never going to land head shots

Hatton is easy to hit on the outside too, less so on the inside where he grapples, and Hatton used his speed of foot/hand to lead, giving more success. Still he barely won 3 rounds

Mosleys gameplan was poor, but his lack of a good jab and zero defense meant it was always going to be easy work for Mayweather. He needed to foundamentally change his style to win, which a 38yo can not do. To make it close he needed to forget the head and goto the body, with combinations, not singles.

1 of the main differences in this fight is Mayweather was more aggressive, maybe that was a stylistic choice or Myaweather was just better in this fight for whatever reason. Mayweathers been plagued with injuries and he could well have been carrying those against Hatton/DLH

 

So all your comments are now based off of evaluating Floyd as a top 20-25 fighter who ever lived? Didnt this entire thread start off with you claiming how overated Mayweather has been his entire career, never facing adversity and Mosley being the man to carry out the job to expose Mayweather for the fighter he really is?

No thats losing to inferior fighters that he shouldnt have lost to in the first place and revenging defeats. That isnt more impressive than actually beating all the guys youve faced on this level which Floyd has.

No it wasnt, and yes he did face adversity, but again, Mercer is not even close to the level of Mayweathers best opponents.

Yes but again you seem to be lowering your standards for Lennox Lewis who was on his way out of the sport when this fight took place. Was this the fight that made up your mind how great Lewis was?

Were not exactly describing iron here when talking about Lennox Lewis. People seem to have this warped view that a fighter must comeback from the brink of death to prove their greatness, but I disagree. It doesnt take a fighter coming back from a knockout loss or getting into a bloddy battle to prove it. Roy Jones faced zero adversity when he faced the best opponent he stepped into the ring with. Had he gotten knocked down bloddied, and comeback to win would you have thought of him at a higher standard? Was Floyd facing adversity going into the fight with Corrales at the time, or ODLH at 154 or Castillo with an injured hand?
Some fighters are simply in a class of their own, and it can take any number of things to bring out the best in them, but a lot of you guys overlook the obvious when evaluating Mayweather because of your personal agendas towards him. Hes not a brawler, hes not an exciting fighter in my opinion, at all, but hes also not anything Ive seen in my 25 plus years of watching boxing.

 

Mosley was not at his best. I suppose that makes me a hater but it was plain to see.

 

He would have Ko'd Margarito again. Was he at his peak like he was for Delahoya 1? No, but we knew that anyway. Mosleys always had nightmares with top level boxer types with the exception of Delahoya who tried to KO him. In essence he was given a punchers chance because of his strength/power/speed

 

I agree with you here, i put something similar in a previous post, he is 100% gladiator/prize fighter with regard to his attention & application of his trade, love him/hate him/rate him/don't rate him he's the full package & a total pro & like you i can't think of anyone without due bias who compares to the above since Leonard.

Myself I'am soso about Floyd as i see him as a very very good but somehow he just don't make the great for me, he's going down the Leonard route in gauranteing his longevity by these bogus retirements such as Leonard when faced with Hagler next up which would proberbly have spelt $$$$$ doom for the Leonard brand between 82/86, Floyd's trying to go the same way & create a brand!!!! & the big 0 sells.

 

The saddest thing in the world is wasted talent- Sonny, a Bronx Tale, or was it Colojino? Can't remember, it's the quote of the film though.

 

You are not a hater but there is a reason Mosley was not at his best because Mayweather is that damned good that Mosley was not able to perform at his best Mayweather disarmed him.

 

I think he meant Mosley is not in his prime, and no that doesn't make him a hater either. It's a good win in terms of current relevance though, Mosley was ranked right up there at the weight.

 

A lot of this stuff is so dam twisted, but I dont care to discuss it any further. I dont really care to keep defending Mayweather either. Hopefully for the fans he'll make the fight with Pac.