Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

If you read Lora's post this pretty much sums up my opinion on Mayweather. It is a lot like Jones Jr in that the so called toughest challenges really werent much better than what he was beating, and it was proven. You have to really read this carefully and understand it. You also have to have a good understanding of fighters and their true talents, not what the media tells you.

Elite fighters dont just magically appear, they are few and far between, and there isnt always one to come along during another elite fighters career. Now he finally has a challenger that is in fact held in the same regard as him on a skill level, so dont worry about me bringing down the sport and promoting mismatches, the fight will happen, and we'll see if Floyd can pass the test of entering the mythical status of the top P4P list, which I could careless about hes still a great fighter win or lose.

 

Definitly, I have pretty much grown up with Mayweather. My first true boxing idol. My trainer is a big admirer of him too, he says he is the best fighter he has seen.

 

The win over Marquez is nothing in terms of legacy enhancing, nothing at all for me. But man i loved that performance, call me a sucker for strategies being implemented 100% correctly, but hey it is what it is. The poor footwork of Marquez is so blatant it's painful, so Mayweather just kept stepping once here, once there, not really on his bike, but just a step here and there, and the result is Marquez can never get set to throw his fine combos. I love hit like that. Hopkins does it to opponents with inferior footwork masterfully, just exposes them. And these are the performances that newspapers and **** call boring! Nothing better than watching someone like Hopkins imo, or say Jim Driscoll, haha.

The performance the other night was good, but he walked Shane down, don;t get me wrong, i appreciate all styles of boxing, but the displays of ring generalship are what have me in awe mostly.

 

I was impressed with the Marquez performance, I didnt think he could be so dominant as it was going to be a battle of skills. And he completly out-classed Marquez. There is not alot of wait behind it in terms of career definign win or whatever but it was a good performance.

 

Yeah, the win was nothing, especially at welterweight. That's why the Ring's ratings **** me off so much, going into the Mosley fight he was right up near the top of the 147 rankings, and all he'd done in ages was beat the lightweight champ. I suppose rankings aren;t important but sometimes stupid logic pisses me off.

Very nice boxing clinic just to watch though, i thought it was quality.

 

One thing about the Marquez performance, it lacked killer instinct. Mayweather should have stepped up through the gears and got Marquez outta there after knocking him down. While Mayweather dominated him, it was as if he was fighting Mike Tyson in there instead of a former featherweight with average power.

 

That's his biggest weakness for sure, finishing skills and or combination hitting (depending on whether you see the two as being synonomous, they definitely impact one another in terms of skillset).

 

I first seen Mayweather fight Manfredy in 1998. His first defense of the WBC super-featherweight title he won from Hernandez. I'm a massive Mayweather fan, must admit. Someone recently said on here that Mayweather isn't among the top 10 best defensive fighters of all-time. Whats next, Ray Robinson aint among the top 10 welterweights of all-time?

 

When it comes to skill, etc, Mayweather is right up there with Robinson, Pep, Leonard, Whitaker, etc.

 

i watched the first castillo fight today and was wondering how castillo would be looked at today if he was given the decision.

 

Touche. I'll take that, though you ought to return the favor and give me arguments like this post -not emoticons.

lora's post is a good one.

Okay. Would you agree that far too many boxing fans are infatuated with speed or power or both and don't pay enough attention to records, to longevity, the level of opponents, adversity overcome -that stuff?

I call it The Kellerman Problem. And that's because he was on ESPN a few years ago talking about how Roy Jones was up their with Robinson and could have a real chance against Tyson. Atlas, on the scene, told him to get his meds adjusted.

Do you know who Kellerman looked like to me when he was talking that ragtime? Pee Wee Herman, that's who.

 

Incidentally, on the point of Mayweather and the lack of combo hitting/finishing skills. I've been thinking about him vs Felix Trinidad. I think it's about as bad a style match-up for Trinidad as can be. Like Marquez, Trinidad's outstanding weakness was his footwork, he never learned how to cut off the ring. Mayweather would likely take on the role of pure boxer and use footwork to stay outside and potshot exclusively. His weakness could well be a strength here. Engaging Trinidad is downright stupid imo, and Mayweather's style in which he doesn't force a fight inside working his man with combos, gives him a great chance of outboxing his man. He'd likely be in the mode of his fight with Carlos Baldomir, or shall i say, that's what he should do.

Now-

That said, it's not as if Trinidad is not going to land, and Mayweather does like to defend 'in the pocket' when all's said and done. Trinidad's biggest strength is Mayweather's biggest weakness; finishing with combos. If Trinidad hurts his man there's a big chance it's over. In fact if he catches Mayweather with an accurate hook that hurts him, i'd run to the bookies as fast as i could to put him on by stoppage, ****, i'd watch this in the bookies. Say if Mayweather hurts Tito with a big shot, i reckon he;d let Tito off the hook, would that come back and bite him in the ass if Tito landed big?

It's an interesting one, personally i reckon Mayweather would outbox him. I'm a far bigger Tito fan than a Floyd fan as well, look at my username, my dog is called Tito. Anyway, any thoughts?

All the other fighs that this Graham Houston wrote about Floyd taking part in were ****ing ridiculous write-ups so i can't even be bothered with that ****.

 

Stoney, i reckon people probably don't pay enough attention to records and resume etc. But one thing that really riles me is when people pay so much attention to spped and power and none to technical ability, doesn't that annoy the **** out of you mate? I hate that.

 

i think he meant no blueprint works against him...i mean you can draw one up. and in your head it could sound good but in reality floyd is unbeatable...hes the absolute truth

 

Nice post, come back never.