Floyd Laughing At End Of Round When Mosley Hit Him Hard

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  1. Brian

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    Power is the last thing to go. Ask Michael Moorer.
     
  2. Skins

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    Usually when a fighter laughs or smiles after being hit it means he is hurt. Look at Tommy Hearns, he always got this stupid grin on his face after being rocked.
     
  3. The Shockmaster

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    are you efffing kidding me? do you read the replies to this thread or just teh ones you want to pick out and criticize?

    we have idiots mentioning how old and shot shane was in an attempt to make fun of floyd

    its not my fault manny was scared of shane before floyd fought him...then fought him several fights later after he saw floyd whoop him......no one should mention anything shane did to floyd
     
  4. LiLbeef

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    Margarito took 100's of the same 2 shots Floyd took and didn't go until the 9th. Shane was past it also like 38 or something.
     
  5. shadow111

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    lol well I’m not even saying I believe Mosley, I’m just saying I find it interesting that he revealed this. It appeared to me that Mosley only revealed this AFTER Pacquiao - Mayweather and the whole shoulder injury. If I recall, after Mayweather Pacquiao, Mosley was upset with Pacquiao that he supposedly used the shoulder as an excuse after the Mayweather fight.

    Which I don’t actually think was the case, in reality Pacquiao DIDN’T use the shoulder injury as an excuse, in fact it was Freddie Roach who mentioned it not Pacquiao, ironically Pacquiao simply said he thought he won the fight and never mentioned the shoulder, but due to how anticipated Pacquiao Mayweather was, the fact that there was an injury to mar the fight, that instantly turned into “Pacquiao making excuses”.

    I think on some level this admission by Mosley should have been seen as a Eureka! moment on how we should all view injuries in boxing, but I think this comment by Mosley kinda got lost in the shuffle. Anyway, I sort of remember Mosley saying something about an injury after his fight with Mayweather, but I can’t remember exactly what was said. Maybe Mosley back then kinda didn’t want to say he was injured as to not take away from Floyd’s win. Obviously admitting you were injured after a fight is generally a no-no to not appear un-manly or "making excuses" in the sport of boxing.

    I just think at some point this whole “you can’t admit you are injured after a fight” kinda just got completely crazy. In all honestly, I think the David Haye Toe situation kinda created bad karma when it comes to injuries in big boxing matches.

    After that David Haye toe, seriously like no injury could ever be as bad as that and I think Mosley’s recent admission that he was injured is a result of other big fights having injury excuses attached.

    I think why this is such a Eureka! moment is because it just goes to show how wishy-washy these so-called boxing standards are. The fact that Mosley could come out after Pac-Mayweather and criticize Pacquiao for “making excuse” only shows us how he basically criticized Pacquiao for actually something that Pacquiao didn’t even do (he never actually mentioned the injury or used the injury as an excuse), and something that he himself ended up doing just a month or two later.

    It just goes to show how fragmented we are. Everyone got so caught up with Floyd Pacquiao and were left disappointed for a variety of reasons, then to hear the injury “excuse” made people angry. It made people angry at Pacquiao for “making excuses” even though he himself never made excuses. Meanwhile, Pacquiao fought Floyd tooth and nail and it really was a very even fight and one could make the argument Pacquiao won simply by being the aggressor, throwing more punches (volume) the same stuff we see in countless other fights not involving Mayweather.

    So at the end of the day, I don’t believe I am sucker for simply pointing out what Mosley said and how no one cares, or hold it against Mosley for “being injured” vs Floyd like they did for Pacquiao. Understandably so to an extent, due to Pacquiao - Floyd being much more anticipated than Mosley - Floyd, but it does point out massive hypocrisy and just a general not knowing what the heck is going. Not only do we have no idea if Mosley was really injured vs Floyd, but I don’t see why he would lie about something like that. It seems more plausible that he simply did not mention the injury because he did not want to be seen as “making excuses” but then after rate whole Pacquiao injury he felt it had been so long that he could do it without much blowback. But again it just shows how he technically did the exact thing that he and many others criticized Pac-Man for doing (making excuses) simply for being injured (something he had no real control over) not actually saying he was injured.

    I agree with Moanamchara here about how boxers make excuses when they lose big fights. However, understand that Pacquiao himself wasn’t making excuses after the fight. He never said anything about the injury. Roach mentioned the injury in the post fight press conference, so I think it’s ridiculous that Manny was being criticized for not only making excuses (which he didn’t) but also for the fight being boring. When obviously Floyd was the one running away so if anyone was making it boring it was Floyd.

    I guess it’s just amazing how so many things get repeated that aren’t even true, and then people, like you jesse make up your mind that “Mosley is obviously lying that he was injured”. Neither of us have any way of knowing if he did really have a groin pull vs Floyd. But I gotta be honest, I tend to believe him, but I don’t know for sure. I believe many boxers do make excuses when they lose big fights. David Haye being the most extreme example obviously lol. But that doesn’t mean that every boxer who reveals an injury is making excuses. If in fact, he did have a groin pull, the reason why Mosley would have not revealed it until recently is because now it was more safe to reveal it in the aftermath of FMJ - Pac-Man.
     
  6. The Shockmaster

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    lol@"margarito took 100 of the same shots and lasted till the 9th"

    wow...cool story...margarito also got humilated ....and so did shane when he fought floyd......and floyd could buy both men 300x over.......but eh good for shane and margarito for taking all those punches
     
  7. tinman

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    Young Mosley would have been able to follow up.

    This was the old Mosley.
     
  8. cslb

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    That was "old" Mayweather also. Young Mosley wouldn't have been able to hit young Mayweather with those shots.
     
  9. shadow111

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    Yeah but when did the old Mosley start? The fight before Floyd, Mosley looked rejuvinated and youthful vs Margarito right?

    Then he just all of a sudden got old vs Floyd after rocking Floyd with probably the best punch ever on Floyd in the 2nd round, but after that not being able to do anything literally?

    That scenario seems to resemble the effect of what a groin pull would be, would it not? Ask yourself, would the Mosley who fought Margarito have been able to follow up? I think the answer to that is clearly yes. So if there wasn’t an injury, one has to wonder how he got old between 2009 and 2010, without having any fights?

    It leads me to believe, just by observing those two fights, that the injury is legit. Certainly there’s no way to know for sure that it wasn’t legit. What we seen in those 2 fights certainly would lead us to believe that he must have been injured, and a groin pull would explain his fight strategy so to speak after landing that punch in the 2nd round.
     
  10. cslb

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    Mosley also said he had an Achilles tendon injury going into the Pac fight. Is that legit also?
     
  11. tinman

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    Who knows young Mosley would have been by far the toughest opponent of Floyd's career.

    Mosely is a step up from Corrales, big time.
     
  12. cslb

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    Mosley was stronger than Mayweather but Mayweather was always the far superior boxer. Since we are talking about boxing and not arm-wrestling, young Mosley wouldn't have done any better. Floyd tried to make the fight but Mosley had a "toothache". You probably weren't following boxing back then.
     
  13. shadow111

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    It would have been a completely different fight in the late 90s / early 2000s. Mosley wouldn’t have faded like that, for sure. There’s no way to predict anything else really about that, because back then Floyd looked up to Mosley. In fact, Mosley said Floyd once said to him back in those days that he (Floyd) wanted to be just like Mosley.

    So that would be sort of like Mr. Miyagi Fighting Daniel-san, but I still think Mosley would have a greater chance of winning rounds. That was before Floyd’s home was Vegas, that was before he was able to win close rounds in Vegas by stalling and not engaging.

    Floyd was just a young kid back then and he didn’t have a stranglehold on the sport like he does now, and Mosley would have been likely the favorite going into the fight and with a good chance to win a decision.
     
  14. tinman

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    Mosley was p4p #1 in 2000 and 2001. Not 9 and 10 years later when Floyd fought him.
     
  15. tinman

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    I watched boxing with dad back then.

    But if old Mosley can tag him 9 years after being #1 p4p then imagine what he does back at his best?