FLOYD lied about his fight night weight,he waz easily 165 pounds!

PIPO23 · Sep 16, 2013

Caramelo Canelo wtf his name is no giant!! side by side Floyd looks about the same.

TheRat · Sep 16, 2013

? hell naw, he has a small frame. I believe he was 150 he has like 12-13inch arms

Ripper11 · Sep 16, 2013

:rofl how did this troll thread get so big

mrdoctor · Sep 16, 2013

All I waz pointing out waz that he lied about his fight night weight and that it's a tactic he uses...he waz standing next to broner and broner waz easily 73 kilos..team MAYWEATHER know THE WEIGHT GAME!!!

Symphenyceo · Sep 16, 2013

shadow111 said: ↑

The public allows themselves to be manipulated by Mayweather because they are infatuated with him. The obviousness of the deception can be seen no clearer than the reaction to the completely reasonable official scorecards.

Teddy Atlas was a drunk fool Saturday night. He couldn't control his own words. Everyone was drunk on Mayweather saturday night, cept for the few real fans left.
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full of ****

Symphenyceo · Sep 16, 2013

shadow111 said: ↑

Listen up, you got this all wrong. I'm not trying to discredit Floyd. He did that himself. What's done is done. You can go on living a lie or you can realize that you have been thrown for a loop.

Let me be clear : The majority of people are in denial about what happened in this fight. The people who are calling for CJ Ross to not be able to do her job in the future are brainwashed by The Money Team. The people who are in denial are the ones bitching and mounting about the official judges scores.

These same people (like you) are trying to switch it around and make anyone who doesn't bash the official decision to be the ones who are in denial. I am not the one complaining about the official judges. it is the majority that is complaining about the official judges decision, as was seen before. They are the ones in denial. They are in denial of the official score. This is nothing new in boxing.

As far as pettiness, you need to look no further then your idol Floyd Money Mayweather and the fact that he needed a catchweight to win a close majority decision against a weight drained fighter, and then be proud of it. Canelo did not complain at all, as I said I am not a huge Canelo fan. He fought his fight, and came closer to beating Floyd than anyone since DLH. If you disagree with that, then you are clearly in denial of what actually happened.

I hope you come to your senses because we need more logic in this world and less pettiness. We need real fights and no more TMT catchweights because it's ruining the sport of boxing.
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The pro mexican crowd booed the 114-114 card. All you need to know.

Symphenyceo · Sep 16, 2013

shadow111 said: ↑

Canelo played possum on the ropes like one time the entire fight. (that was probably the most dominant round Floyd had the entire fight) It was actually a smart move by Canelo at that time.

Ali played possum on the ropes for most of the Foreman fight, and ended up winning. Going against the ropes and playing possum is actually a veteran move, something most young fighters would never do. That's what makes Canelo different. Canelo tried to rope-a-dope Mayweather. Canelo going to the ropes that one time was a sign that he was smarter and more creative than most fighters who fight Floyd.

But overall, Floyd was near the ropes or on the ropes for a lot longer throughout the fight than Canelo was. Canelo was standing at center ring more than Floyd and was the aggressor for longer than Floyd was. In the later stages of the fight, Floyd was basically using lateral motion near the ropes just running away.
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clearly dont understand what your watching.

Symphenyceo · Sep 16, 2013

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You are calling the Canelo vs Trout fight a robbery. I'd just like to point out that you are in the minority on that one. Possibly a large minority, some people did think Trout won, but most people agreed that Canelo clearly beat Trout. Canelo knocked him down and landed the better punches despite Trout throwing more. So when you say that Trout was robbed, you are going into this discussion heavily biased against Canelo. And if you thought Trout was robbed, in my opinion, you don't know jack sh*t about boxing and it's not surprising that you scored every round for Mayweather.

You are also saying that they "paid off CJ Ross". Who is they? And what makes you say that? Do you have any proof to make such an allegation?

And I'm not a Canelo nuthugger. There is no "normal" way to score a boxing fight. Everyone has a different way to score a fight, and it usually doesn't involve looking at statistics. I personally use a lot of 10-10 rounds, take a look at my Judah vs Garcia card to give you an idea of how I try to balance things. Fans have the luxury to look at punch stats and things like that. I look at things like ring generalship and clean effective punching. In a 3 minute round, you may only get 1 or 2 telling significant punches and those might swing around if the round is close. (unless one guy is pumping the jab and landing it consistently)

To be honest, I don't really trust compubox. You know how that's calculated? One guy is sitting there is a clicker guessing in real time as to which punches are blocked and which punches land. It's a guessing game. I bet if you went through an entire fight choosing which punches landed you'd get a different number.

Believe it or not, Trout has a very different punching style than either Maywather or Canelo. Trout is taller, and uses the jab much more than Canelo or Mayweather. But unlike Ali, who used the jab effectively, Trout's jab wasn't a particularly great jab. Per Compubox, Trout threw 416 jabs, and only landed 59 of them (14%) vs Canelo. That's an poor percentage of jabs landed, and it was because Canelo was particularly elusive in that fight. Canelo was able to slip the jab, and counter with more meaningful punches round after round.

I really hope you provide a response to this, because I am trying to have an intelligent discussion. It's hard to engage with someone who believes Trout was robbed, since imho it was clear as day that Canelo won that fight.
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No more proof than you saying showtime has incentive to keep floyd relevant and that showtime lost money on the guerrero fight

Quincy K · Sep 16, 2013

shadow111 said: ↑

OK Quincy K, then we have a different definition of what robbery is. A robbery to me is when the wrong guy won. You're calling Canelo - Trout a robbery because the cards were wider then what you thought it should have been? That to me isn't a robbery when the right guy won.

A robbery is typically when the wrong guy get award a decision. But let me also add that I absolutely hate open scoring, and I do think that the open scoring put extra pressure on Trout.

Trout and Canelo did have the same compubox jab %, but Trout threw many more, and the way I score a round is that jabs are pretty much meaningless, unless you are landing them consistently, which neither guy was. Trout was basicaly just putting a light jab out there and Canelo was blocking them easily or evading them. I thought it was an easy fight to score because Trout wasn't landing any big punches. Canelo had the more impressive, powerful clean punches. Similar to how Broner clearly had the more impressive, powerful clean punches vs Malignaggi, and that's why he won despite Paulie throwing more than 300 more punches than Broner. When a round is close, it's common to look at who had the more impressive clean big jaw dropping punches. If there aren't any big punches like that or if both guys had the same amount of big punches and it's close, then I usually score it 10-10.

Judging boxing is always going to be debatable. These days, practically everything is called a robbery, but in reality, a robbery is really when one guy gets robbed of a win he clearly earned, which doesn't happen too often.

Regardless of how ridiculous you think CJ Ross's score was, I think it should humble Floyd. He made $41.5 million and Canelo only made $5 million, and that was with making a Mayweather imposed catchweight. Floyd is a great fighter, but I used to respect him a lot more than I do now.
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yes, of course. canelo the wrecking machine was landing the "more impressive, powerful clean punches" as opposed to trouts less impressive, weak non-clean punches.

look, nobodys falling for canelos "powerful" puches garbage anymore. hes fought four legit 154's to this point that actully came to fight(rhodes,mosley,trout and floyd) and all four made it into the 12th round.

let me buy you a clue since i was one of the first guys here two years ago saying that canelo is nothing. the minute that canelo could not hurt mosley nor knock him down i knew that this guy and his power were hype.

and i beileve that this guy is so much hype, so nothing to me, that we can do a lifetime esb ban bet that this boxer that possesses such "powerful clean punches" does not ko carlos molina before the 12th round

that will be five legit jms that came to fight going 12 rounds with this supposed wrecking machine whos never wrecked anyone.

mrdoctor · Sep 16, 2013

People people all I'm saying is MAYWEATHER keeps his fighting weight a secret and what he says it is...IS A LIE...showtime and hbo are in on it!!

Quincy K · Sep 16, 2013

floyd was 152 at the seven day

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2013/09/mayweather-vs-canelo-7-day-pre-fight-weigh-in/

floyd was 150 at the 30-day

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2013/mayweather-jr-at-150-3-lbs-canelo-166-8-lbs-30-day-weigh-in/

floyd probably walks around 24/7/365 between 150-157 at 8-12 percent body fat.

he never ballons up to 165.

ever.

assasin · Sep 16, 2013

HoldMyBeer said: ↑

its just pure childish to refer to call yourself as a "real fan" simply because you want to discredit Floyd, and then lump the majority (who aren't in denial) into one big, collective, dismissive heap just because they don't agree with you

to me, a real boxing fan is someone who can lap up the skills of the greatest boxer of this era when they are on display, instead of letting pettiness and a desire to discredit him tarnish their interest in the sport
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Floyd is the greatest boxer of this era?

when did he beat Pac to prove this? i must of missed it.

Stark · Sep 16, 2013

Bullsh*t.

You're probably one of those people who think he was over 160 pounds for the Marquez fight too.

mrdoctor · Sep 16, 2013

Yes I do not!!!

dlts20 · Sep 16, 2013

so the whole time Floyd doesnt step on the scale, the haterz try to say that he's doing it to hide how big he really is. Now he steps on it and even that isnt real? Too funny

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