Floyd made 40 million against Ortiz?

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  1. DrTrouble

    DrTrouble Active Member Full Member

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    Do we know the numbers for the Floyd Ortiz fight?
     
  2. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haters gonna hate. Floyd gets the most hate which equals money any way you look at it. Look at the *******s, they can't stop posting about him.
     
  3. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    the scum is probably "only" making 10 to 20M.

    He likes people to believe he is doing a lot more.
     
  4. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    Your thoughts dont matter in this because those putting money into the fight dont use your thoughts.

    When the fight was being negotiated Mayweather was clear favourite in that December month.People started betting and Mayweather was the clear favourite.(google the stats) What you dont know is when doing financial modelling it's these probabilities (what you call odds) that are used not what a forumite on the internet thinks.Yes every fighter when he gets into the ring has a chance but the most probable outcome is Pacquiao will lose.It's those probabilities and standard deviations which are used to measure risk (bell shaped distribution curve).Arum is a businessman,he takes calculated risks,by that we mean if the reward is great yes you can make the fight where your fighter will most likely lose.Unfortunately the risk in the Mayweather fight is too great and the reward doesnt justify that risk.Risk has to be rewarded (unless you aint rational of which we dont care about imbeciles)He can make more money by matching his own fighters who pose no threat to his cashcow.Yes upsets do happen but they are more of exceptions and not rules.Everyone has an opinion but not every person's opinion matters.Promoters and bet makers see things differently because they stand to lose if things go wrong.They take many scenarios and try to simulate outcomes.Most of those outcomes favour Mayweather and that's what matters.When you say Mayweather stands to lose more,no.It's unlikely he will lose so it's unlikely he will obviously lose his marketability.As for OSDT you need to look at what's been happening of late.People cheating and the rumours in boxing circles about Pacquiao's cheating (which have been circulating for a long time).To eliminate the risk of cheating Mayweather suggested OSDT.There's sense in everything Floyd's doing,he has a great team behind him even though people might hate him.He's a real business person.

    As for Mayweather-Ortiz ppv numbers,it's only been 2 weeks since the fight was made,there's a chance the numbers will be released.Mosley-pacquiao was long back and Arum went ballistic when journalists asked for the numbers.
     
  5. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do people explain the $500000 he borrowed from Don King? or the tax bills?
     
  6. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    nobody believes the don king ****. People pay taxes late all the time. A guy like Floyd who is still getting big checks from previous fights is going to have interesting taxes due anyways
     
  7. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    Don King's not credible but even if he did cashflow management is a different ball game.If you have off shore accounts like many rich people,there are often restrictions on how you can access your cash.We dont know the circumstances,his making $40m and needing $0.5m are different.If he borrowed it could be because King doesnt charge interest whereas banks charge interest.
    As for tax,taxation is complicated.Many movie stars have been misled by advisors and paid less tax than they should have paid.We do not know how the liabilities were incurred.Was that deliberate tax avoidance or an oversight?HOw much details do you have?All we heard was he owed but how?It's not like many people who pay their tax as they earn,highly paid athletes have many schemes to negate their tax liabilities
     
  8. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    Sorry but what does any of that have to do with how much he earns from a fight?

    There is a difference between what you earn and what you spend.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    what fighter genenrates close to what Floyd does except Pac? Don't make up ****. Nobody, but Pac does similar numbers to Floyd what are you talking about?

    If Floyd does under a million ppv buys, then it's a bust. But the only person who can even do over 700K is Pacquiao and Floyd
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    except you missed out on the biggest piece of the pie which is the broadcasters who actually distribute the PPV. :patsch

    dishnet, comcast, etc. These are the people who get paid directly from the customer and they take almost half the revenue,.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No, it's just little ***gots like you who don't want to believe that. :patsch
     
  12. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People will pay a load of money just for a chance to finally see someone
    finally KO Floyd - watch out a big drop in Floyd's income right after he loses ....
     
  13. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Apparently Floyd gets a percentage of everything. Posters, PPV“s, foreign tv rights, pubs, cinemas... Everything!!!!
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Nobody has really adressed this before, how much is Al Haymon's (as his manager) take from Floyd's total income???

    standard fee for a manager is 30%... Floyd may have gotten away from paying a higher share to a promoter (Arum) but he gained a manager who takes 30%.

    If you think about it, Floyd just switched pimps. :yep
     
  15. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    1.4 x $50.00 (est) = $70,000,000

    ...for HBO to make 53 mil. from that fight, they would be taking about 75% of the gross PPV income or about 50% and a lot of the ad sales and site fee. There's no way HBO is only taking 20%.