First off, you discredit yourself by even quoting Harold Lederman, who most posters that post in forums like this view as a complete bafoon....... .....secondly I scored both the JMM-Pac fights 9-3 in favor of JMM......the first fight only being close because there was three knockdowns scored by Pacquiao. Like many, I thought Marquez completely schooled Pac after those 3 knockdowns, only giving Pac one round after the 2nd round...... The second fight I view as competitive only because you got the sense that Pacquiao could turn the tide with a single shot, and Pac made it a physically taxing fight on Marquez.......but boxistically, JMM cleary won most of the rounds he should have been given clearly. Outlanding and scoring consistently more effective with hard and more accurate shots.
Did you ever say only 1 % of ESB posters saw a Pac win? It only showed how insanely biased you are, Divac. It was a close fight and it could go either way for both boxers. Even Roach admitted that it was close and he had no problem admitting a Marquez win if the judges saw it that way. But many saw a Pac win because of the KD in the 3d round and the other KO that was not called by the referree.
Is that right????? Bob Arum has yet to release the Pac-Hatton PPV numbers.....there is speculation as to how many buys it did, but Arum has refused to release the official numbers...... I wonder why?:rofl:rofl:rofl
What fight did you see, Divac? 9-3 for JMM? Whereas many saw it at 6-6 w/ the KD as the clincher for Pac. BTW, have you ever seen this? This is supposed to be a KD, right? This should convince the judges to see it in Pac's favor. This content is protected
I've never mentioned 1%, I dont know what you're getting at....... .....and boxing is scored on a round by round basis. There are no carry over rounds and you dont give a boxer credit for a knockdown in any round other than the round he scored the knockdown in....... .......and I think it shows the desperation of trying to explain a Pac win, when someone harps on a what they view as a knockdown that never was scored as such. .....get over that *******s, JMM's gloves or behind never touched the canvas.....and even if you want to ridiculously view that as a knockdown, you cant score it as such becuase only the referee can deem it a knockdown...... A judge cannot take it upon himself to score a situation a knockdown, unless the referee called it a knockdown. Its just that simple.
Why don't all *******s admit that the JMM-Pac 1 and 2 are all dominating wins for JMM!!!!!! It is the only delusion that makes some people cling to their sanity and it occupies their mind 24/7 of the time. In that way, we could move on. Please have pity all *******s. We need to move on to bigger things and some people just can not get over some things. You have been called moron, and among other unprintablke adjectives. Yet most of you admit that the JMM fights were close fights that could have gone both ways. On the other hand, those that maligned you had been adamant that JMM had been so dominating in both fight, apparently overlooking that he broke his nose so badly and had his face so badly disfigured and swallowed (no pun intended) so much blood. They used compubox as basis for JMM win in JMM-Pac2, saying that JMM had more connects than Pac (by about 10 punches in 12 rounds), yet when confronted with a round per round punch stat showing Pac outpunching JMM 7 rounds to 5 rounds, they then question the accuracy of compubox. Then they want to use retrospect to score the fight, yet when JMM clung to the rope for dear life, it should not be counted as a knockdown. For christsakes, when you use video review to score a fight, then whether it was called by the referee as KD or not, it should be call a KD. That is the only way to remove objectivity in those video reviews.
Okay, can you post your score round by round to show how you got 9-3 for Marquez. What is your commulative score? Many saw it 114-113 for either fighter. I'm just interested how you saw it.
If you look at all the threads that have heated discussions about JMM-Pac, I'd venture to guess that just about 90% of them are started by *******s.....they just want to keep convincing themselves that somehow Pac deserved those victories and are unwilling to move on....... ......and there is this ******* currently called buxzer, that has an infatuation with continously starting JMM-Mayweather threads and involving Pac in those discussions...... Move on *******s!!!:yep
Why don't you stop crying and admit the judges' scoring the two fights : draw and SD for Pac. Why can't you agree to what Marquez said in Ring Magazine, the bible of boxing and owned by his promoter DLH, that : "I can never consider myself great until I beat Pacquiao" which he never retracted.
I don't think you can convince a diehard Marquez fan that he won 9-3 in that second fight. I dare you. Make a poll. :hi:
I've moved on.......I'm not interested in discussing the fight at lenghth any longer. If you're interested in reading some of the opinions of the posters in this very forum right after the fight happened, you can still log back to the March 15th 2008 archives and view the posters in this forums opinions and score of the fight....... I'm not going to discuss it on a round by round basis with you, but I gave Pac rounds 3, 4, and 10......all the others to JMM! I think its poignant to point out that there were many boxing observers at ringside who scored the fight 8-4 in rounds to JMM.......yet none of those observers had it that far in favor of Pacquiao.