Isn't that too much of a stretch? If I say it's impossible for someone to break into my home, doesn't mean I'm a former criminal who made a living out of robbing people. It just means I believe my state-of-the-art security system will keep me safe. I do think it's possible to go from 106 to 154 but then again I'm not a pro athlete. As we all know Floyd doesn't explain his logic very well. He has trouble finding the right words in all his interviews. Do I think he's an idiot? Yes, in some ways he is (in other ways he isn't), but I don't watch boxing just to look for the next Albert Einstein. Maybe Floyd juiced up. Maybe he didn't. But why does the past matter? We'll never know for sure. The fight that needs to be made is Pac-Floyd and it can't be wrong or bad for both of them to go through a strict drug program. Floyd is suspicious of Pac and Manny can easily shatter all doubts by taking a few random blood tests. Ortiz didn't complain. Mosley didn't complain. Just take the tests. If Pac rejects it, then fine. He'll have to live with doubters and the fact that the fight was never made, which I'm sure won't bother him and doesn't really make him less of a person/athlete.
guillermo jones went from 147 to 200, he must be on peds too according to this logic. he also had 2 fights at HW. what a steroid inducing *******
:nut He should've been deducted at least twice more and DQed. Come on Fred, you're better than this. And this is absolutely NOT a troll thread. I sincerely don't give a **** if Floyd is on steroids or Manny is on steroids or Roy Jones is on steroids or James Toney is on weight watchers. But there is no reasonable response to this ****. That thought shouldn't even enter into his ****ing head. How could it? He didn't say **** about height or legs or speed or power or age or anything. He said it's impossible for any athlete to go from 106 to 154 naturally. He didn't say Pacquiao has a suspiciously enormous head or acne or any of that ****. He specifically mentioned a weight gain that he has gone through himself and said it's not possible without the use of PEDs.
You're regurgitating garbage Mayweather says, particular your first point. I can give you an encyclopedia of fighters that seemingly went from good to great. Pac did not gain speed moving up.
The reason this is s troll thread is because Floyd has said this numerous times before, the exact same ****, "no one can go from 106-154 naturally", Floyd always says dumb **** & contradicts himself, just like his uncle and father... So why are you addressing this now, have you just started to follow this soap opera... If you don't care if either are on peds why make this thread, Floyd fans and haters already know he's a dumb son-of-a-*****, I could care less what he says...its shut up and fight with me...are let this **** die...
Thought the same thing during that moment. Actually, I always do whenever he goes "It's not natural from someone to go 106 to 154." Before that, he used to spout off about "I was 16 and 106 and I went to 154." The guy is a walking contradiction and he's incredibly oblivious to all of it.
The logical position Floyd holds is probably this: "It is impossible for any man who is not Floyd Mayweather to go from 106 to 154 without taking steroids." This requires defining "fighter" in context as "all fighters not named Floyd Mayweather". Floyd simply omitted to define his terms.
Pac or Floyd using steroids is irrelevant if both parties agree to taking the test. We know for sure that the last couple fights Floyd had he was clean because he was doing the random testing. So if Pac is willing to submit as well, then will know that he is to. Enough is enough just take the damn test so this fight can happen.
Mayweather is one stupid sounding fool. He's so afraid of Manny! Floyd, stop giving excuses with your buddy 50 Cent and sign the damn fight. Who cares about the damn testing. Just fight! Don't you remember when Fernando Vargas was roided up. He looked fierce, but what happened? De La Hoya beat his ass good. So enough excuses, sign the contract split the $$ and fight.
Fighters have gained MORE weight than Pac and Floyd...Fighters have gained 40, 30, 50 lbs a piece...ALL of them lose speed and power when they go up in weight...Pacman got TWICE as strong and TWICE as fast..and he KNOCKS out WW, and Pushes Middleweights back..NO FIGHTER IN HISTORY has gone up in weight and got that strong and fast...It took Floyd 4 yrs+some for him to grow into a natural ww...Pac did it in 2 yrs
All other issues to one side this is the biggest problem. You should give a ****. Boxing as a sport and many fans have such a lax attitude towards PEDs and drug testing. There are far too many 'fans' who'll say they don't care if fighter xyz is on PEDs or PEDs don't make that much of a difference so its not a big deal etc etc. If that attitude strengthens and becomes more prevalent then boxing as a sport will be totally undermined. You can hate Floyd and question his motives but what he actually ultimately wants i.e. more stringent drugs testing should be fully supported by all boxing fans.