Floyd Mayweather announces retirement from Boxing? WTF?

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Sorry sucka...I am 100X more realistic about Margarito then you are about Wlad. You just say **** like that hoping some will think it's true.

    YOu want to know what he has that Floyd hasn't beaten? How about a 5'11" 147 pound tough as nails banger who doesn't stop punching. One who'll pressure him like crazy (and we know pressure bothers Floyd) and can take any punch he throws. Better resume's or beating small guys don't win fights for you.
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    Relax there chief, those are some good points but Hatton was a pressure fighter too wasn't he? Wlad isn't fighting either one so let's leave him out of this conversation m'kay?

    Do you really think he'll beat Cotto?
     
  3. nervousxtian

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    Santos v Tony was not a ****ing hometown decision.. you douchebag. Did you watch the fight?? Tony was coming on, but seriously, not a contreversial decision AT ALL.

    Good for Floyd though, just hopes if he wants to retire, he just does it.

    He's got money, and honestly, he's got **** to prove to any of you. You haters wouldn't give him credit if he DID beat Cotto, you'd move on to the next guy he'd be "ducking".

    Him not fighting Cotto doesn't mean **** for his legacy, his legacy was already sealed at lower weights and winning as many titles as he did at so many weights.

    Anyone who has followed Floyd's career has known that he has had one foot out the door for quite a few years now. Floyd was never the type who was going to pull a RJJ or Evander, he wasn't going to fight well past his prime and get punchy.

    Good for him.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

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    Well, Margarito isn't the topic either, and you felt the need to mention him. :D

    True about Hatton, but he's not 5'11" and as tough as Margarito is he. Margarito doesn't clinch either, he just throws, hitting every part of your body hard and often. But even Hatton was able to give Floyd trouble on early in their fight w/o landing anything really cleanly, at least though 5-6 rounds. Just Mayweather being uncomfortable kept Hatton in it IMHO.

    As for Margarito - Cotto, not 100% on who I think would win. I think my last pick on this was Cotto UD, but that can change with some heaving thinking....or drinking. :yep
     
  5. Toopretty

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    OH shut your corny ass up. He is a grown ass man and if he no longer has his head in the game its wise to retire.
     
  6. Lance_Uppercut

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    You're 100% TP. right He had no intention of facing a top WW, so this is his best, and most practical, move. Plus he keeps his pretty 0.
     
  7. hitman_hatton1

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    margo doesn't take as many chances as hatton does.

    remember the early rds against williams.

    hatton would have been swarming williams early in that fight.

    margo would be outboxed by floyd.

    or would have been. :yep
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    How can you honestly say Hatton takes more chances? But that's basically a point that can't be proven or disproven. The early rounds with Williams only means somthing to Margarito vs. Williams. How do you think Hatton would have done vs. that Williams?

    HOW do you see Mayweather outboxing Margarito? Potshotting him? Beating him off the back foot? How? When was the last time Mayweather moved like he did @ 130? Or the last time he put a lot of beautiful combinations together in one fight? 4-5 years ago? :huh
     
  9. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    watch the daniel santos fight.

    margo didn't have the success he had against cintron.

    cintron is a fairly straight ahead fighter who stood in there with margo.

    santos is a boxer/mover who deservedly outpointed him.

    mayweather is a lot better than santos. :bbb
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

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    The fight with Oscar is off ... Oscar will persue another opponent ... I think Oscar needs to follow suit and hang em up.

    I'm sure that he wouldn't pass up 30m if he wasn't serious about retirement ...

    Its not a ploy to hype up the fight ... the promotion if there were any would be gear towards Oscar's fan base ... to convince them that Oscar has a chance and that he still has it.

    Thanks alot of 12 yrs of perfection --
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The Santos fights doesn't mean anything in regards to what you and I are talking about. Basically, you're using ONE FIGHT to give your statement meaning. Why would you ignore EVERY OTHER FACTOR related to that fight?

    THink a 149 pound Mayweather beats a 170 Santos? Doubtful. While Santos can be stopped, Mayweather hasn't shown a big punch, at least big enough to stop a fairly big guy, since fighting @ 135.
     
  12. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i'd like to see oscar fight vernon forrest. :good
     
  13. hitman_hatton1

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    u said that hatton gave floyd problems for 5 or 6 rds and margo would keep it up.

    that was the gist of it anyway.

    i'm just saying that margo doesn't use those same out and out swarming tactics against boxers.

    watch his fights with santos and williams. he paces himself more than rick does and i believe mayweather would therefore offset him at range.

    quite simply really. :yep
     
  14. RUSKULL

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    I'm actually looking forward to the Cotto Margo fight more than I usually do for the lighter weights. Should be a good one! :bbb

    BTW, I only mentioned Margarito because he's fighting Cotto & the winner would be the perfect choice to fight Mayweather, that & the fact you're a known Margo fan.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    That Margarito has physica attributes that Hatton simply doesn't have. He'll take punches better then HAtton. And being stronger, his punches would have more of an effect.

    The Santos and Williams fights are just 2 fights (both southpaws BTW). They don't represent Margarito any more then his 2 wins over Kyvelos and Johnson do.

    What I want to know, and rarely do I get an answer, is HOW Mayweather wins. He's at many disadvantages against Margarito. Sure he has speed, skill, and defense. But he is NOT the same fighter who fought @ 130 or 135. He doesn't move as much, or throw as much. And trying to potshot an aggressive volume puncher just won't work. He'll get hit everywhere. And his shoulder roll isn't as effective against the bod as is it upstairs.