what the hell do you know?Just corrales and faded DLH... Floyd beat Henderaz who was division champ in his 18th pro fight how many fighters even becomes WBC champ in their 18th fight???, Corrales who was peak prime undefeated, Castillo was prime undisputed 135lber, destroyed Gatti who people claimed has improved and boxing beautifully, Signed to fight Judah when he was undisputed and beat Baldomir and Judah just to shut up the haters, Hatton was undefeated and in prime, Oscar was 160+ and had all the advantages, mosley after he destroy margo, JMM coming off ko wins over diaz, and fought a peak prime Ortiz who showed up 165 and Cotto with a full gas tank and improved skills. AND NOT TO MENTION KOSTYA WAS TERRIFED OF FLOYD. Casamayor want nothing to do with Floyd and when Floyd was 140 expert claim no one from 154 and down can beat him. excuse all that haters.
History will treat him very very well. He will go down as an ATG and if the Manny fight dont happen people will just point to Manny refusing the test. In 20 years it will be the standard. What a great boxer we all got to witness.
atsch So much garbage here. Care to explain: How KT was terrified? How winning a title in the 18th fight is so big when that's been done SEVERAL TIMES, and even QUICKER? How Casamayor supposedly wanted NOTHING with Floyd? How when Floyd was at 140, so-called EXPERT CLAIM means it's true? BTW, listing a fighter coming off a win doesn't really make it THAT much more impressive. Yeah, JMM beat Diaz before. At LW. Which is what JMM was. Wow!! Destroyed Gatti, and that's supposed to be HUGE because some saw improvement? :huh This is just total fanboyism. And you actually claimed to be the most unbiased poster..atsch
If you follow boxing you would already know but you don't so of course you don't know ****. Floyd called out KT after he beat castillo and KT decline and took what he thought was an easier fight with Hatton and get beat unfairly. POST THESE SO Many fighters that won in 18th fight, a recognized world title! This i like see it *****, you are full of **** and u know it. Casamayor got called out and would not answer bc he knows will get beat. And Gatti was being hype to be boxing the best he ever has. If you follow boxing WHICH YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T would know about that hype. You are just a ***** ass hater face it. Deal with it. 10x more unbias than ur ***** ass. IF YOU KNOW BOXING YOU WOULD KNOW THAT WHEN FLOYD WAS COMING UP IN WEIGHT CHASING THE BIG NAMES THAT YOU HATERS CLAIMED THAT HE DIDN'T BEAT IN HIS PRIME, THEY ALL WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM. DID SHANE WANT TO FIGHT? HELL NO. DID OSCAR WANT TO FIGHT? HELL **** NO.
I'd never claim I was a genius, but I know a thing or two by paying attention and keeping my eyes open. You should try it sometime, when you're not blinded by rabid fandom. Didn't say those were his only two wins. Just his two best. You're easily one of the most rabid Floyd fans on these boards. On what Universe is Gatti a win to brag about? Mosley was still 39 years old. Margarito was a great stylistic match, nothing more. You're kidding yourself or delusional if you think 2010 Mosley was the same animal that 2000 Mosley was. Ortiz isn't even close to being a great, he's a glass chinned glass hearted brawler with the mind of a child. He also pulled Marquez up two weightclasses, and then unprofessionally missed the catchweight he agreed to make in the contract by 2 pounds on purpose. He also fought Hatton above his best weight (though he'd have beat Ricky at 140, too), and it's not like Hatton was some unstoppable monster. Judah and Baldomir are nothing special. Hernandez also wasn't some undefeated monster, he'd already been smashed by DLH in his 19th pro fight a full three years before Floyd got to him. Speaking of DLH, if you think the 2007 DLH was anywhere close to the same fighter stylistically or physically that he was from 1998-2000 or from 2002-2003, you're pretty much delusional. And that faded DLH still gave Floyd a rough night. What would a prime DLH do to him? I bet Floyd wouldn't want to know. Oscar was VERY faded by 2007. And Castillo got the better of Floyd the first time but Floyd did beat him in the rematch (credit to him for doing that.) And Cotto? Cotto won 4 rounds off your supposed GOAT, 3 years after taking career-altering beatdowns from both Plasterito and Pacquiao. Much like Pacquiao, Floyd's resume is loaded with big names, but the circumstances of his victories make them less impressive wins than they look on paper. And Kostya terrified? Aren't Floyd fans the same guys who claim no professional fighters are terrified of anyone else? I doubt he was scared of Floyd. I don't think Floyd is "terrified" of Pacquiao. Did Kostya think Floyd might beat him? Maybe he did. Does Floyd think Pacquiao might beat him? Maybe he does; if he wasn't concerned Pacuiao had a chance against him, he'd have jumped at the chance to bag the money, public acclaim, and a big name on his legacy years ago. But he didn't. That speaks volumes about him. And how exactly do you justify the fake retirement horse****? Since you didn't even bother to mention it, I'm guessing you're disappointed in Floyd for that, too. It's alright to be a big fan of a fighter, but be realistic and objective about the fighters you like when you're evaluating them. Floyd's great, but simply not a GOAT candidate. You got all up in arms like I'd insulted somebody in your immediate family. That's taking fandom a little far, wouldn't you say?
Please! Mayweather fought Gatti who was one dimensional, fought Baldomir who was a bum, fought Castillo the first time and had his ass kicked, fought De La Hoya whom was well past his prime, fought Cotto that was way past his prime and had take several beatings, fought Hatton whom was one dimensional, fought a heartless Judah. Let's see, his best opponents were Diego Corrales, and Chop Chop Corley that put him on his ass. Hmm. Floyd ranks in the top 20-30 best fighters of all time. And you can never mention him in the P4P of all time because he ran and ran and ran and is still running from Manny Pacquiao, something Bradley isn't doing. Also, you Floyd fans are in for a shocker when you find out the truth of Floyd testing positive for PEDs 3 times. This will come out soon. Damn snake cheater. Floyd, you cheated and had us all conned for awhile, but as the Bible says, all things will come to light. Definitely no GOAT! nononononononono:nono
Well, esteemed, learned, unbiased scholar that you are, what would you say are his two best wins, hmm? :think:huh
Chop did what to floyd? Castillo did what to floyd? And i didn't know you can be a bum and still become world champ. Thanks for the boxing education:yep:rofl
Look child, I was watching Floyd before Y2K *******. Before YOU discovered him and became a nuthugger. HEll, I was one of a FEW fans of his before you even discovered this site. So get off your high horse, you belong on a high chair little boy. SO..Floyd 'called out KT'..and to you, since they did not fight, that means KT was terified? Did Top Rank make an offer to KT's manager? YOu say KT took an easier fight w/ Hatton INSTEAD of FLoyd., after the castilo fight? Floyd fought Castillo last in dec 2002. KT fought Hatton in 2005. So how does that work again? ANd Floyd fought scrubs AFTER Castillo anyway, then took TWO eliminators at 140 to get to cash cow Gatti at 140. NOTHING you posted makes sense. You need me to list fighters who won titles before their 18th fight? Do some ****in research noob!! But here's a few to start....DLH, Kostya Tszyu, Leon Spinks. Ever heard of Evander Holyfield numbnuts? HEll, even Rigondeaux today has done it. Serously, WTF does Gatti hype even matter? So now HYPE on a fighter means something? ANd ANOTHER call out...this time to Casamayor. So, again, did TR or Floyd offer up a fight contract? Open negotiations? You're no smarter then a child if you think a call out matters. But hey, Vivian Harris called out FLoyd like a mofo. FLoyd was even a mando for Harris at 140, but Floyd decided against it. For an easier fight leading to Gatti. What does that mean to you? Paul Williams called out Mayweather. Did they fight? No. Does that mean Floyd was terrified? Hell, FLOYD called out WInky remember, then what happened? Explain to me Mr. Fanboy! :thumbsup And then...the mayweather boogieman..Margarito. He called out floyd, and he and Arum made floyd look SCARED for two years. How'd that fight go? What did floyd say to him when confronted? Remember? You really are pretty ****in easy to go against. Simply because you DO NOT know history, and aren't as smart as you like to believe. Actually quite ignorant. :yep
You will NOT get a rational reply from tliang. He's a know-it-all Floyd fanboy. These thick headed ****s are impossible to talk to.
I'll agree with you that Mayweather is an immensly talented boxer with marvellous God Given talents BUT he was also cursed by being given the cojones of a gnat. He beat champions time after time??? Not true he ducked everyone that he knew he couldn't beat. He only fights at home in Vegas where he receives very biased officiating . eg in the Hatton fight Joe Cortez was there to ensure Hatton would not have a chance. Mayweather will be remembered as a very talented wannabeee thats all. Its his own fault he is not regarded as one of the best ever A real champ doesnt cry that he's being unjustly treated :|:|
You quit reading because you were too intimidated. You're nothing more then an ostrich putting his head in the ground to hide from danger.atsch
You DA KT ignored and injured with mitchell and after injury he still doesn't want to fight Floyd. Floyd chose to fight Oscar who was a better fighter with more money over Margo, Only a DA will fight a unknown and less money. Of course u don't know ****. Listing 5 doesn't equal many loser. you know you can't compete with me in boxing. Yea i'm bias where you think Floyd ducks everyone while no one ever ducks him. HA