I’m not Floyd’s biggest fan, but one thing he can never be accused of is being a weight bully. I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t outweighed on fight night by the majority of his opponents, particularly as he moved up the weight classes. Are there official (or unofficial) fight night weights for Floyd’s fights? I found something online but not sure of its veracity. If it’s true, though, it would suggest that Floyd rarely rehydrated more than a few pounds between the official day-before weigh in and fight night. It would also suggest in some of his fights he was significantly outweighed by his opponent, sometimes by as much as 20 pounds during his welterweight years. Interested to hear people’s thoughts on this.
According to a site I found, he was usually still in the 130s at fight time. The fight with Chico Corrales has him at 136.5 and Corrales at 146.
HBO Unofficial Weights Mayweather 139 G. Hernandez 139 Mayweather 138 Manfredy 139 Mayweather 135 Gerena 135 Mayweather 136 Juuko 140 Mayweather 139.5 Vargas 141 Mayweather 136.5 Corrales 146 Mayweather 139 C. Hernandez 137 Mayweather 137.5 Chavez 136 Mayweather 138.5 Castillo 147.5 Mayweather 138 Castillo 147 (rematch) Mayweather 140 Sosa 145 Mayweather 140 Ndou 147 Mayweather 145 Corley 144 Mayweather 142 Bruseles 150 Mayweather 148 Mitchell 155 Mayweather 146 Judah 150 Mayweather 149 Baldomir 162
in the Past, Floyd, just like most others - Natural Size & Weight, would have been a Middleweight cum L-HW. as a young fighter he would have passed through Welter, levelled out at Middleweight and finished off his career as a L- HW. as I always say that changes EVERYTHING, think of the Fighters he would have had to Face!
No, I don’t think so. That makes an assumption that his fight night weight was much more than his weigh-in weight. If @Thread Stealer’s source is correct, it shows that Floyd was rarely more than a few pounds heavier and in his welterweight days, it seems he was usually no more than a couple of pounds above the weight limit. The problem is that everyone now assumes that all fighters massively rehydrate between weigh in and fight night and that everyone is huge for their weight. In Floyd’s case, this doesn’t seem to be true. Or were you talking purely about walk-around weight pre-training?
What? Mayweather was a shrimp. No real 160lber ever has looked the way he did. D1ck Tiger was a 160lber- Dense one. Bigger then Mayweather ever was and he was a 168lbs guy when he didn't need to make weight anymore at LHW. On no planet is Mayweather ever a MW come LHW.
sorry he is NOT going to do different than all the other fighters of the Past - they Fought in & around their natural weight - ALL of them. ... they didn't have 4 months to cut weight, more like 4 weeks or less, sometimes just days, they Stayed at their Own Weight. Floyd would do just the same as every other fighter if he lived back then. just look at the STATURE of most of them then. Middleweights were 5' 8" - 5' 10" en masse, so PBF, and others fron Now going Back Then, would do just the same as all other fighters, and that is Fight In & Around you're Natural Weight!!!
Ok, I get you. I’m really comparing him here with fighters of his own era and current day-before weigh in practices.
There is no chance Mayweather would have fought at LHW in any era. Naturally slim, slender 5ft 8ins fighters don't fight at 175lbs. Look at photos of Floyd at 130lbs in his early 20's and then at 147lbs in his late 30's. He has no more fat, just manufactured muscle mass. Without access to modern sports science, nutrition and supplements (legal or otherwise), Mayweather may not have fought as high as 147/154lbs in previous eras as he wouldn't have been able to put the kind muscle on a guy that small needed to weigh that much whilst maintaining a single figure body fat %. Look at him now, mid 40's, clearly less muscular, though probably carrying a little more fat. He's probably settled at mid 150's. No way he would have ever grown into a LHW, in any era. Pacquiao definitely wouldnt have gone as high as 147lbs in previous eras. He wouldn't have had access to the necessary sports science, nutritional expertise and supplements to weigh that much whilst in fighting shape.
Yes Greg, I get that, but those are 4 month Train Down weights... sure it is possible he wouldn't have closed out at L-HW, but make No Mistake he would have fought at Welter and then levelling out at Middleweight, where, Sure, he may well have remained at. he's NOT 150 today, he is probably eitherside of 170lbs now... I'm 5'8 and about 180, not in shape, and I'm only carrying about 6 - 10 lbs overweight... in my youth FIT, I was 140 - 165 over about a 10 - 15 year time frame.
At 147/154lbs for Mayweather I don't think they were train down weights. He's naturally a slim, lean and slender guy. Borderline skinny naturally. He had to add muscle. Look at him a couple of years post retirement, his upper body clearly got smaller. Pacquiao reportedly had to consume a crazy 7,000 calories a day to maintain 147lbs. If true, there's no way he would have been able to eat that much and keep in fighting shape 70-80 years ago. He would have been a career FW, or a small LW, back then. I agree that there are many boxers who would have fought at higher weights 50+ years ago with same day weigh ins and fighting more regularly. There are also those who utilise modern resources to fight at weights they wouldn't have been able to in previous eras. Mayweather, a borderline skinny guy barely 5ft 8ins, would categorically never have weighed 175lbs in fighting shape, during any era.
I've already Agreed with the L-HW possibility that he might never see. I was just using the 3 Weight typical transition, from Young Novice - Leveled Out Peak - to heavier for End of Career finishing weight. Many fighters only fought in 2 divisions, but the larger chunk of fighters 'typically' transitioned 3 weights in a Long Career from Novice to Veteran. Floyd THEN, would have been a Welter cum Middle... So Who then 'might' he have had to fight? it Changes a lot of conclusions!
Different fighters develop in different ways. Hatton was a tank as a 20 year old LWW. He was big at LWW at that age. He was undersized as a WW in his 30's, he didnt have the frame. Hearns was a naturally very skinny guy who always had the frame of a CW. He was skinny enough to make 147lbs, but unlike most WWs, he had the frame to fill out and become a fully fledged LHW. I'm 40, 6ft and 185lbs. At 22 I was 190lbs and definitely did not have a higher body fat %. I eat more carefully and run a bit more now, do about the same weight training. People are different and develop differently.
