Floyd Mayweather fight night weights

again Greg, AGREE.

but these conversations ARE Generalized based on the Majority of Fighters,
not the Minority like a Hearns or Saddler or Qawi or Langford or Hatton, but rather the Thousands of Average Stature Wise Majority, regardless of division.

average Flyweights, Average Welters, Average Light Heavies and so on back then, the Average thousands of Fighters fought In & Around their Natural Stature height & weights!

and every other week, NOT with MONTHS to Train Down.

 

I'm not sure what you are getting at.

I agree, for example, that your average MW is both naturally bigger and heavier on fight night than your average 1950's MW.

You said Mayweather would have been a MW, possibly ending up at LHW, in previous eras. I disagree.

Going off the fight night weights posted earlier in this thread and the fact Floyd clearly added manufactured, rather than natural, muscle bulk from his WW career and beyond, my guess is if he fought in the 50's he would first be world class at LW and would have ended his career as a smallish WW.

Mayweather didn't balloon up 20lbs between fights because he was disciplined and naturally had a very slender build. If he was still in the 130's on fight night aged 25, then without modern resources for adding natural muscle bulk, he may never have scaled a full 147lbs in the 1950's.

 

Good thread totally derailed.

I assume Mayweather entered that the ring around 150-151 for his junior middleweight fights. It wouldve made no sense for him to cut well below the limit, only to pack a bunch of pounds in after.

 

Yes this, but not just MW's, ALL Weights.

I have already allowed for the L-HW non applicable possibility, twice, so I agree with you there.

BUT Floyd at 5' 8" weighing at his peak eitherside of 140- 145lbs (without shreading), goes back to pre & post 1940s, is Going to be STATURE Wise, just like MOST other 5' 8" eitherside of 145lbs, would, LIKE THEM, fight as a Welter cum Middle.

it's simple, put me, you, anybody back to Roman times, I/we don't do like a 21st Century man, We would do exactly what our 3rd Century peers would do.

Simple.

 

Mayweather weighed in 134lbs aged 25 vs Castillo and was reportedly 138lbs on the night. That is 1) What I'd expect of 1940's LWs weighing in the same day and 2) In the 12 round era with modern resources that typically see boxers carry more muscle mass.

In the 15 round era, with less resources to add muscle and where doing so would have been counter intuitive to the longer fights, you think Mayweather would have been 11lbs heavier? I don't and even if he was, 145lbs isnt a WW come MW, its WW.

Ike Williams is the closest boxer of the 40's and 50's I can think of who most resembled Mayweather's natural size. A long armed 5ft 9ins, he had a slighty bigger frame than Mayweather and was equally as slender in build. Without the resources or motivation to fill out his frame with muscle, ala Mayweather post 2005, he was a LW at his best and also fought as a small WW, which is where I see Mayweather were he born to the same era.

 

Yes, Greg I hear you, but you keep missing & excluding 'cutting' weight, Floyd weighs in at said weights because he has MONTHS to do so...

in the 1940s, he ISN'T Cutting (unless called to do so), he's Fighting at CATCHWEIGHT Contests at or near his walking around weight, which even if he was 143lbs for example he is Well OVER Lightweight... which he never would have entertained back then anyway. No!

he'd be a Welter as a young 5'8" Natural STATURE sized fighter and a few years later, he'd be fighting at Middle.

Stop thinking what he weighed in at in his Own Time Career, with MONTHS to do so...
back then there is No Months for such competing, No! ...

Days & a few weeks at best.

 

Again, I dont think Mayweather did cut significantly. Just like the slightly bigger framed and similarly built Ike Williams didn't. His natural fighting weight was c.135lbs, that's all.

I do think Mayweather bulked up above his natural fighting when he fought at 147lbs and above. Pacquiao moreso.

 

they fought so often that was their training and many had manual labor jobs, hell a lot of them would go fight that day after work lol .. and it takes time to ride the rail for out of town events
agree ,, they fought at their natural weights

the really successful ones ,, like McFarland ... had the time and money to cut the weight and fight in 2 divisions .. but like you said it was rare I believe