FLoyd mayweather has already beaten pacquiao...

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  1. sosolid4u09

    sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 banned Full Member

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    like you said he said it in the Rugged man interview.
    ok lets be objective like you say.

    floyd hasnt made a deal with this drug testing issue with anyone else? yet after admitting in the rugged man interview,,, and after his father countless times accused pac of steroid use.. if like you say floyd jr IS his own MAN and if he really DIDNT believe pacs on roids WHY push this drug thing so much?/?!? when in the past he never did!!!? you dont need to say the words to have the desired effect and accuse someone! infact his way of doing it was much smarter and far more powerful
     
  2. rja733

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    I agree with Big Reg that Manny's handling of it was very poor. I mean if manny came right out and said, hey i'm not giving into your bullying, if you want to fight, fight, then he would have had more credibility. But instead they started asking for unrealistic demands of thier own and then after they were met (1MM for every pound over) the manny camp starts backing into a new theory or demand. Personally I think he did steroids at some point maybe even unknowingly. But also think that Arum doesn;t want the fight to happen. I think Arum is the biggest obstacle to this fight, no steroids, not floyd and not manny
     
  3. BigReg

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    Manny is a double talker. On one hand he says he'll only do what the commission says, on the other hand he says he'll do the testing as long as he has a 24 day cutoff. Which one is it? It seems to me he's fine with Mayweather requesting tougher testing as long as he has a 24 day window. But now you have to wonder why he needs a 24 day window. If you're being objective than you have to see how Pacquiao has caused a lot of this controversy through his own miss steps.
     
  4. Grillinnap

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    Professional (outside the ring) and Floyd Jr. don't belong in the same sentence, but I have to agree that he has never made any accusations.
     
  5. rja733

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    Might be his own man doesnt mean he DOESNT believe the guy was on roids. How many times are people going to be fooled by late career resurgences? This guys got way more impressive AFTER 30 i mean come on
     
  6. BigReg

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    If Mayweather really does believe Manny is on something, than that's an even better reason to request the testing. Why the hell should he fight the guy if he believes he's cheating? Mayweather is well within his rights to request more stringent testing, and that's what he did. He has not gone on a smear campaign. People are supicious of Pacquiao because of the silly statements and contradictions that have come out of his mouth.
     
  7. BigReg

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    I knew you would get it.
     
  8. sosolid4u09

    sosolid4u09 4 8 15 16 23 42 banned Full Member

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    lol have u even been watching 24/7
     
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  10. rja733

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    Im suspicious when trainers start saying things like "manny doesnt even know what is in his drinks" or when small guys move up quickly in weight and lose no speed and keep gaining power. I also am suspicious when this happens later in thier career. I am especially suspicious when a guy refuses the biggest pay day of his life and fights some chump bc hes asked to take a blood test.

    One guy missed out on the pay day because he didn't want to fight a guy on roids, another guy missed the pay day bc he was afraid of needles? or bc it was within 24 days? or bc drawing blood was the reason for his last lost!?
     
  11. Leon

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    If the NSAC puts in a drug testing program I doubt they'll have a super long cut off date like emmanuel wants. It'll likely be as long in duration as what happened with Mosley, so you bring up a good point. What will emmanuel do if they make the cut off date only 5 days?:think
     
  12. BigReg

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    Yeah, Shane is the only guy getting smeared on that show.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    I think you guys are crazy.

    I would bet that any NFL scout for a particular position could look at a guy doing drills with the rest of them and say, "Yeah, that guy is probably juicing." Why? Because the human body is a MACHINE. There are certain parameters that it conforms to. Sure there are anomalies, but they are few and far between.

    They Mayweather family is as skilled as any professional sporting scout. If you don't think so watch the HBO 24/7s for Mayweather's fights and EVERYTHING they say comes true. Just like any other sport, I am sure that fight camps respect each other and don't speak on the steroid issue, but they have their doubts or suspicions. The Mayweathers are just brash enough to put it out there.

    -- Manny comes up 17 pounds on a small frame in 2 years and puts on ZERO body fat even though he is *Asian?
    -- Manny comes up those 17 pounds with ZERO loss of endurance?
    -- Manny comes up those 17 pounds with ZERO loss of speed?
    -- Manny comes up in weight and his KO % IMPROVES?
    -- He does all of this after looking average at 130

    He is the ONLY boxer to EVER pull that crap! So what is harder to believe? He is enhancing his performance? Or he is just that special?

    If it is too good to be true? It probably isn't.


    *(Most Filipinos/Asians I know are not "ripped" even at well within normal weight and fit. Manny could be the exception but coupled with everything else? Really?)
     
  14. BigReg

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    This is an excellent question. If that happens, he'll be contradicting himself no matter what he does. And that's problem, this guy keeps talking out of both sides of his mouth. This guy is going around lying and guys like the threadstarter wonder why less people are believing him.
     
  15. Leon

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    Didn't he already weigh around a similar weight for fight night back then as he does now?