FLoyd mayweather has already beaten pacquiao...

I actually agree with you here. SOmetimes people think non native speakers are dumb. I agree things translate poorly. BUT he pushed the law suit right? WHatever the reason in native language or not he refused to take the test right?

Ultimatley i think its arum and i hear what you are saying its a valid point

 

I don't know what he's saying, but I know he can't properly give an interview in English... So that right there won't let me buy into these changing stances every 5 minutes..

Arum is business and Top Rank comes first above all else.

 

It is a "valid" point about the silly, "He is bigger. I am smaller." crap, but most of the stuff is not confused by translation.

You will or won't test.
You want X number of days for a testing cut off.
You walk away from negotiations.
You line up another fight with an in camp fighter.

What is there to "lose in translation"? :huh

 

I'm the idiot but you post this.... Damn why in the **** aren't 10th trimester abortions legal in the U.S.

 

'Roids do pay bills. People like to see "Studs". Look at the old vids of the NFL and the new ones. The changes are insane.

I honestly think boxing is a little cleaner than most team sports, but for a fight worth this much? I can't fault a man for wanting to take every precaution.

 

Yes. You are an idiot. There was nothing to lose in translation that was not reflected in his strange actions. Yeah they might oversimplify his sentences, but how does that change his ACTIONS? Moron.

Nothing worse than you idiots trying to play "intelligent" bringing up side issues that have nothing to do with anything.

 

You're a ****ing clown ass gump. Chief you follow **** and make no rationale within that little ass brain of yours..,. What would make you think he roids??? You're answer he's too good.. What would make you think Sr had any bases for his accusations??? You're answer he's a smart and knowledgeable man... **** you and the rest of the bitches.. There ain't no more room for **** jockeys around here no more... So clear your ass and take a seat..

 

You guys make it sound like Pacquiao is asked to climb a mountain or something.

 

Because he could have made the man with the agenda eat his words and show the world he is clean and got in the ring beat floyd ass. Therefore beating Floyd in the ring and outside the ring. Instead he and his camp came up with multiple excuses and made Manny look suspicious in the process. Manny brought all of this ped on himself in the end cause he could have nip that **** in the bud right of rip.

 

not this crap again.
check out his fight night weights, you'll see he's been hovering in the mid 140s since 2006. again, it's been talked about for eternity that he's been weight-drained for his feather-super feather days, so there's no surprise that his speed, power and overall performance has improved.
also, check out his tales of the tape against hatton and cotto (two supposedly bigger stronger fighters) - he compares well with them. if you look at his thigh, calf and ankle measurements (the source of speed, power and endurance) he blows those supposedly bigger guys away considering his height disadvantage.

not saying he's not on PEDs, but i think the main argument that he IS on PEDs is his refusal to take the random tests, and not how impressive his physical performance is.
yes, the human body normally operates within certain parameters, but there are those human bodies that at least pushes those parameters if not completely blows them away. those human bodies are known as "world champions". pac's combination of power, endurance and speed is not really that unprecedented - henry armstrong, duran, joe frazier. how about ali, even in this day and age you barely see a guy 6'3" 200+ pounds who is that fast, with taht much endurance. the ones you do see are champion athletes. how about mayweather? he's gone from 130 to 154 without losing speed and endurance. he'd probably still have decent power if his hands weren't so brittle.

 

Wow you guys ALWAYS miss the point. The point is that no one thing makes you think that something it off. Each data point alone makes Pac special. All of the data points make you wonder. The fact that testing is such an issue? Now we have a problem.

FMJ is from a LINE of fighters that fought at his current weight. His whole family is fast. His whole family ended their careers at 147-154. The genetics are a proven matter of public record.

 

Simple scenario... Floyd is Pacs woman or whatever you might call it. Floyds mom calls and says that guy is so good lookin and so fresh i know he's cheating. Look at his car, shoes, clothes, jewelry, house, cologne he must be cheating to be so flyyyyy.. Bottom line you Men are acting like Women spreading gossip, chattin, and in a real he said he said dilemma.

 

man, you idiots make me laugh. that's what i call talking loud but sayin nuthin. like i said i agree that the main argument against pac is that he refused to take the test. like i said, the COMBINATION of impressive physical traits isn't really that unprecedented (duran had power, speed, stamina, reflexes, etc from 130-154; how about henry armstrong?) even without the jumps in weight, the combination of power, speed and stamina in frazier and marciano (minus speed) was "special".

and what's with this crap about mayweather's genetics? what are you trying to say. one of my friends (filipino) is 6'4, 200+ pounds of muscle. His dad is 5'9 his mother is 5'6. oh ****, he must've taken growth hormones.

 

No you idiot. All of that coupled with the fact that he wouldn't test! You just keep bringing up BS example after BS example. I guess we will all see when he tests and fights.

Here you go reading too much into what I said. His "genetics" as in we all saw his bloodline in the pro careers of his Father and his Father's brother. He is approximately in line with them in physical traits and abilities.

Then you are off in la la land talking about how buff your friend is? If his kid is 6'5" and 270 of pure muscle I might suspect his kid is juicing! If his kid is 5'4 and 130 I might suspect child abuse unless his wife was 4' nothing... Due to his "genetics".