FLoyd mayweather has already beaten pacquiao...

That is a new twist on this accusation.

Care to shed some links?

 

You really need to get your facts straight. It was Floyd Sr. who started with the accusations. Floyd Jr. only went as far as speculating. As far as I'm concerned, neither party had an influence on my decision/opinion. I started thinking Pac might be doing something dirty the moment he knocked Hatton out cold. My thinking is based on actions, not someone's words. I was actually in attendance at the Pac-Hatton fight. I remember having dinner with my family after the bout. My sister uttered something about the possibility of Pac using unfair advantage and that really got me thinking. Before you start making accusations of racism or hate, let it be known we're Asians and my bro in law is a huge Pacman lover.

Don't get me wrong, I don't completely believe Pac is juicing. I just think his behavior and performances suggest something unclean.

 

ok so floyd's family all finished somewhere around the welterweight limit. so we've proven he's quite probably related to the mayweathers. if he finishes his career at 160, it means he's juicing. pointless.

ok, we look at a guy against his PEERS. so you're saying there are no standouts among standouts? dude, there are those who stand head and shoulders above even those who stand head and shoulders above the elite. get it? look at any sport, you'll find those who are physically miles ahead of even the 2nd best. are they all on PEDs?

and let's dissect pac's supposedly suspicious physical advantages (the ones that don't make sense to you).
he's fast - there are those who claim that mayweather is just as fast or even faster of hand and feet.
he's got freakish stamina - there are those who claim that mayweather has just as great a stamina. his conditioning is legendary. there are much bigger men like calzaghe and joe frazier who are just as conditioned. suspicious isn't it?
he's got power - yes, but it usually takes him several rounds of sustained beatings to knock opponents out. he's no hamed, or julian jackson. the hatton ko was more about the speed, and accuracy (and the fact that hatton had been kd'd several times already).
like i've told you several times, there is nothing unprecedented about pac's physical qualities, in isolation or in combination - which was the basis for your first post.

and like i've said like 3 times, i am not denying that pac may be on peds, because i also find his refusal to take the test suspect. so no i won't be surprised if he gets found out. then again, i wouldn't be surprised if mayweather gets exposed for taking peds. or calzaghe. or anyone.

 

nah...shyt has nothing to do with what anyone said for the thousand time....actually for me it ahs nothing to do with Pac saying NO...because he has EVERY RIGHT TO......ITS HIS LIES and INCONSITANCIES....thats the only reason he is in question as much as he is.

 

Mosley could have knocked Void out, but he stopped punching! Wililams was correct.

Pac refused to throw a fight with Void. Pac will not throw the fight!

 

good point. if pac said "No. It's not required." and stuck with that people would've been stumped.

but i guess the natural reaction was to make excuses. floyd had a thousand excuses whenever asked about facing margo, cotto and shane 3 years ago.

 

Pacquiao has gone up weight classes. But has he really gone up in weight?

Pacquiao - Morales 11/2006
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Morales-129
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Morales-139

Pacquiao - Barrera 10/2007
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-130 Barrera-130
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Barrera-138

Pacquiao - Marquez 3/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-129 Marquez-130
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Barrera-141

Pacquiao - Diaz 6/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-134 Diaz-135
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Diaz-148

Pacquiao - De La Hoya 12/2008
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-142 De La Hoya-145
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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De La Hoya-147

Pacquiao - Hatton 5/2009
Weigh-in weight: Pacquiao-138 Hatton-140
Fight night weight: Pacquiao-

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Hatton-152

So, from the super-featherweight fight with Erik Morales November 2006 to the fights with De La Hoya and Hatton at welterweight and light welterweight 3 years later, Pac's fight night weight has gone from

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Ever see Mosley gassed out after only two rounds? Something is fishy.

 

Well it kinda kills of any HGH argument. PEDs not so much.

But isn't the concern about blood testing the HGH use?

 

your right making excuses is a natural reaction...however lying is not and thats the problem.

 

You sound like a ******* in denial. You are over-awed by Pac's success and then try to discredit him with unfounded accussations. Your conclusions are mostly based on your speculations which you confuse as facts

 

these weight data should convince doubters already. Unless they don't want to at all. People usually will believe only what they want to believe, despite the facts and proofs that are presented to them

 

I don't have any links bro. After the DLH fight, everyone at my gym was talking about Pacquiao being on something. Life and death with JMM at 130 and then destroying Oscar at 147 8 months later? The questions were being asked at that time. Laugh away "your gym haha" whatever, just don't pretend that Mayweather Sr was the first person to ever consider the possibility that Pac was on something.

Anyone who spends a decent amount of time at any gym knows that a large percentage of people in that scene are on something and it's easier to spot others who do the same. I've dabbled before in my younger days when I was training and getting into a lot of bar fights. I was stupid but what can you do; live and learn. I'm not coming out and stating 100% that Pacquiao is juicing, but man you have to be suspicious.

Regarding other fighters and journalists, a google search "Pacquiao steroids" will present you with links.

 

I know right, Mayweather sr. was right on the money with EVERYTHING in the Hatton Pacquiao 24/7

 

The only person casting any shadow of PED use over Manny Pacquiao is Manny Pacquiao and his camp with their inconsistent statements.

You can point the finger at other people all you want, but fact is nobody really took these accusations seriously until Pacquiao and his camp started changing up their stories and ran away from PED tests despite being able to make $40 million.