Floyd Mayweather : "I'm better than Sugar Ray Robinson"

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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Well first of all i want to say that this whole thing about using a little movement against Duran as kryptonite is vastly overrated and exagerrated imo. That thing that happened in the Leonard rematch is full of propaganda. The majority of the early rounds in Montreal were very similar to the rematch, both men standing off one another trying to get off first in mid ring in order to implement their own stylistic stamp on the bout. The only difference is who it was who prevailed, in the first bout it was Duran, in the rematch it was Leonard, and both men deserve equal credit, no excuses for either man. As each bout progressed they chenged for the better of the man who was getting off first. It's not until later on in the fight that Leonard started to clown, then Duran just quit because he was losing.

    Now imo the way to beat a prime Duran if you are going to have a chance is how Dejesus did it, by boxing but not giving away plenty of distance and countering with solid combos of hooks etc. If you stand off or try to run from the best Duran you're only going to get the distance closed ultimately on you. He had one of the best right hands from distance ever. It's interesting that he's one of the best offensive phenoms ever and he moslty didn't cut off the ring in the conventional manner, his preferred method was to smash you with a rapid right hand to the face that wasn't telegraphed and then follow up with combos full of shots from every angle, whislt rolling the shoulders and avoiding ahots all the while. It's preety spectacular, his technique inside.

    Mayweather is very well suited to fighters who come to him. He shouldn't run plenty in this one imo, Duran is too dynamic in his approach, this isn't a guy who'll follow you in a prodding motion, this is slippery and sliding hell on earth passionately trying to murder you. Mayweather should try and emulate the Dejesus effort imo, which he could do a good rendition of. Mayweather spends a lot oftime inside, which i don't think anyone can do at 135 to beat Duran, not even an Ike Wililams probably. I reckon Duran would take a decision at 135, if Mayweather goes to the ropes he'll defo get hit plenty, Duran's skill is too good. Mayweather is great at adapting though mid-fight so the fight would be close, but Duran's approach is too dynamic imo.

    Yourself?
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    err, go back, read my post, and tell me where I ever said Floyd's comp was better. Read carefully.
     
  3. teeto

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    Sugarsean, you get me to type out a big ass post and ****in desert me?
     
  4. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man you suprised me with what you said about Duran V Leonard 2, I'm impressed :good

    As for Duran V Mayweather, well for me anytime I tell people that Duran would beat Mayweather I tell them to look at Duran's fight against Buchanan, I have never seen Duran as sharp and as alert as the way he was that night, he was also completely ferocious and just a relentless machine that night, now people would think that would play in to Mayweather's hands and it would normally, but as I said Duran was so sharp that night, and to people that don't know boxing would just think that Duran's bulldosing which is wrong, his head movement is unbelieveable, the amount times Buchanan is made to miss, I mean it's just ridiculous, and a problem most people have with Mayweather is not knowing how to find the opening's when they get there, that would'nt be a problem with Duran, greatest infighter ever, but Floyd is great on the inside himself though, anyway for me I am totally conviced that Duran would win this fight, he's got the chin, the head movement, footspeed, stamina and fighting skill's for the job, and I do believe Mayweather would be intimidated by Duran ferociousness (he was very tentative against De La Hoya), Mayweather is competive but lose's clearly.

    Duran on points
     
  6. teeto

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    Good post. The Buchanan performance is one of the best, some say it is marred by the ultimate outcome, i suppose it may be, people never talk about Buchanan hitting after the bell though. The performance before the low blow though is one of the prime examples of 'he would just not be devied that night' in boxing history, and he kept that up for the rest of his reign. His technique in close is special to say the least, even Tyson didn;t combine pure offense and defence like that.

    Good post yo!
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This thread really has legs.
     
  8. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It should be given some kind of veteran award, can we make it a sticky??!!!
     
  9. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nah it would of only marred it if it was close, but lets be honest he was beatin the **** out of Buchanan which amazing because Buchanan was a class operater, I think Duran was just pissed off that he could'nt drop him thats all.
     
  10. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agree with the rest of your post
     
  11. teeto

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    Let us nut-hug.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVKFjbZLGE&feature=fvst[/ame]

    Still so forgotten to this day.
     
  12. teeto

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    :good
     
  13. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah his resume is very underated, and especially how he did it ( away from home with no support ) also his abilities as a fighter, great jab, ring generalship and footwork.
     
  14. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh and his chin and toughness was amazing
     
  15. teeto

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    Yeah man, one of the great generals for sure.