Floyd Mayweather is an Uninspiring Amateur

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I understand what you're saying. I don't have a problem with it. But from the philosophy of most boxers, they want to outbox by fighting - that's how they feel they've won. Because that was the sentiment that made Rios-Alvarado rivalry decent, and the unspoken premise of their matches, Alvarado was more of the quitter for choosing to step away from the fight to outpoint, because he just simply couldn't handle the heat.
     
  2. Drew101

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    No, he wouldn't have been able to do so, because he's not as effective off the back foot. His success was predicated on controlling the geography of the fight; but when the fight moved to ring center (which it did in ring center) Floyd was able to assume control.

    Also, Jesus Chavez (El Matador), Genero Hernandez, DeMarcus Corley, Diego Corrales weren't inept in any way, shape or form. All were stopped (or in the case of Corley dropped multiple times) by a version of Floyd who stood right in front of them for extended periods.
     
  3. Gannicus

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    Your comment is besides the point I'm making in this thread. But I'll address your point at the level you'd want me to, anyway.

    You're incorrect in regards to Joe Gans, who emphasised a lot of inside game, using that with repeated return fire shots at relatively close range.
    McFarland? Bruh..sure there is an illusive element to him but out of all of the boxers, you pick Packey?
    You are right to a good deal with regards to Sweet Pea (and to an extent, Pep), however, Sweet Pea was ok to rough it up on the inside himself on many occasions, as well as not flee at the hint of attack. Sweet Peas also far more instinctive with his defence rather than having the strategy to just get on his bike or clinch at any hint of attack.
    Mayweather is a master boxer and nothing I have said has attempted to dispute that hence I can understand why he wins against
    very good opponents. Mayweather had more power back then, too. His earlier career saw him take on relatively unskilled guys however - which include the 10 year frame you mentioned.
    When he stepped up against the best, Jose Luis Castillo, he lost in the opinion of most. When he stepped up against Cotto, he won clearly
    but he came out of the ring the more beaten up of the two.

    During his ACTUAL physical prime weight classes, he was up against inept guys so it was easier to hammer them.
     
  4. Gannicus

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    He's not as effective on the back foot, but he'd be able to pace himself just enough to maintain his stamina over the 12 rounds. Instead he'd land onslaughts for two minutes each round when it's clear Mayweather would need to do a ridiculous level of work to claw the round back.

    I addressed the early day Mayweather issue elsewhere. It's not even a big point I'm making tbh.
     
  5. Gannicus

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    What is this, a battered wives convention heart pour?
     
  6. Gannicus

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    Ok sure, Mr. Hatton is GOAT.
     
  7. Gannicus

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    When you neutralise by running and hugging to the nth degree, and light pot shotting, it's not really fighting, well, it's uninspiring. It's not wrong though.
     
  8. Gannicus

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    SRL may have lost the first fight, but he understood the nuance I've been making. He can win if he outpoints Duran the amateur way, but he didn't want to do that exactly in the first fight.
     
  9. Gannicus

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    Wlad has the same problem, I'm addressing Wlad too. My God it's terrible.
     
  10. Gannicus

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    Your sentiments are somewhat shared.
     
  11. Gannicus

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    People overrate the level of aggression on Floyd. They're comparing it to the current Floyd and losing sight of comparing to other boxers.
     
  12. Gannicus

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    Exactly.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    Then you're mentally ill as well.:hi:
     
  14. Drew101

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    Uh-huh. Giving away the final minute of each round hardly seems like the route to an easy victory. Ask Manny Pacquiao how that worked out for him when he tried taking time off against Tim Bradley the first time around.

    Anyway, Mayweather left Cotto bruised and had him unsteady in the closing round. He busted up Guerrero, and backed off Alvarez, bruising him in the process. For an amateur, he does a very good...even inspired...job of keeping opponents at bay.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Thread starter...

    ...knows as much as Jon Snow.