Floyd Mayweather is the black Joe Calzaghe.

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  1. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    OK...who did Joe Calzaghe duck at 168? What fighters could he have fought at 168 to better his resume? With 21 title defenses over a 10 year period, who would have he had to fight to make his resume better...keep in mind, we're talking 98-08 in the 168 pound weight class...

    and it has to be at 168...you can't fault a fighter for not moving up or down in weight...then you have to criticize fighters like Kostya Tszyu and Bernard Hopkins.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe didn't get the big fights because he didn't run after them, his demands were all delusional. He wanted people to go to Wales if they want his title, a vacant WBOgus paper title he won fighting a past prime Eubank. He never cared to run after big fights nor did he bother to mention any in his day, how can you claim to dominate a division without thinking about unifying?. Everyone knows if Lacy and Kessler didn't force the fight and made the flight with their own titles those fights wouldn't have happened either. You know there's an issue when randoms out of the blue, Kessler and Lacy in this case, start unifying and Calzaghe who made a career in that division didn't even attempt it by running after the other champions like Kessler and Lacy did.
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Some of you may forget about calzaghe.... Jeff Lacy was highly touted before Calzaghe schooled him.
    And a hopkins win at any point is impressive.

    I hate calzaghe, but he did ok.
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    One of the first things your learn when you train to be a teacher is to assess what level your students are at. I'm going to have to see your qualifications, please. Believe it or not, some people were already aware that Lacy was a hype job, and have been for some time.
     
  5. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually to say Lacy was overhyped and overated is very disputable.

    Just like me saying Calzaghe ruined a decent fighter in Lacy!

    He always stated that he would travel but wasn't going to fight for peanuts!
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    The Lacy win was blown out of all proportions. He was a decent fight, unbeaten title holder, but also the epitome of an American Hype Job.

    Calzaghe's best win is a SD over a 43 year old Hopkins, whereas Mayweather's best win was a loss to Jose Luis Castillo.

    But at the end of the day, no doubt FMJ is a better fighter than JC, he has a better resume, plain and simple, IMO.
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think I'd rank the Corrales and Judah wins above the controversial Castillo win.......but that's just me.
     
  8. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are not my teacher, friend. But if you are fixated on assessment, you can read my posts on this thread and determine for yourself if I am worthy to converse with you. :good
     
  9. Rhino718

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    :ban1
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Yeah, after he schooled him.

    I remember a lot of people thinking Lacy was going to win.
     
  11. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    :huh
     
  12. bkamins

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    Hello, again. I can certainly understand the not fighting for peanuts thing. But what most people don't know is the Showtime was the only network that showed Joe Calzaghe fights (in the US)....and they desperately wanted to see a matchup with Joe and their fresh young gun, Jeff Lacey.

    What that tells me is that if they hadn't've pushed for the Lacey fight, then Joe probably wouldn't have taken it. I return, once again, to the idea that Joe was content to sit on his throne is Wales. He did not chase after big fights as all great champions must. He only took the deal when it was letter perfect.
     
  13. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    Give me a break!!...no one is stating that Floyd isn't a great fighter...you're completely missing the point of this thread...

    We're talking about the opportunities to make big fights...has Floyd had every opportunity to prove his detractors wrong with the right fights and simply has avoided them when the public has demanded them? This has been Floyd's M.O. since his "scare" at 135 against JLC...over the past 7 years, Floyd has jumped from weight class to weight class proclaiming to be the greatest of all time without fighting the best at 140, 147, and 154.

    His resume looks great before the fights with JLC, since that time, it is questionable. My point is that Joe Calzaghe never received the amount of opportunity that Floyd has to prove his greatness.
     
  14. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    All good wins. But Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir and Corrales was weight drained and had severe personal issues. I actually being sardonic with the other comment, the 2nd Castillo win is probably FMJ's best.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Floyd is not a great fighter.

    He is a master boxer, with limited aggression and superb defense.
     
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