Floyd Mayweather Jr ATG at 130 is a MYTH...

He only has a right to be mentioned at 135 in h2h sense really

 

"Twisted" atsch I don't have too .. I lay it(facts) out flat like paper with no extras..The way I think it should be.

Look man last I remember Castillo and Corrales were the two fighter whoopin ass at 130 and 135 and floyd beat both of them..

if you want to rule him out at 135 then that on you .. but I still thinks he getting in , he beat the best guy at 135 twice and guess what not everyone thought he loss that fight .. I myself thought it was awfully close and could have gone ether way .

 

by your logic than Hopkins is an ATG Light Heavy cause he beat the man at the time(Tarver).
at 130 yes he has the resume any other division hell no.

 

This debate needs to stop now sorry, nothin in it, Bladerunners right. His fights at 135 are Castillo in a disputed one (draw imo), Castillo again, great, great win, Ndou, Sosa, thats it if im correct, not enough to be one of the best recognised 135ers greatness wise, h2h maybe though, or maye not, dno

 

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All-Time Lightweight Champions:
1. Roberto Duran, 103-15, 70 KO's, 1967-99. 31 years active.
2. Benny Leonard, 85-5-1, 69 KO's. 119 ND. 1911-32. 16 years active.
3. Tony Canzoneri, 137-24, 44 KO's, 4 ND, 1925-39. 15 years active.
4. Ike Williams, 125-24-5, 60 KO's. 1940-56. 16 years active.
5. Joe Gans, 120-8-9, 85 KO's, 18 ND. 1891-1909. 19 years active.
6. Lou Ambers, 86-8-6, 27 KO's. 1932-41. 10 years active.
7. Alexis Arguello, 80-8, 64 KO's. 1968-96. 20 years active.
8. Julio Cesar Chavez, 108-6-2, 86 KO's, 1980-05. 25 years active
9. Beau Jack, 83-24-5, 40 KO's, 1 ND. 1940-1955. 13 years active.
10. Carlos Ortiz, 61-7-1, 30 KO's. 1955-72. 17 years active.

Who does PBF replace on the All-Time Lightweight list? & Why?
IMO, there is absolutly no way he belongs in that top 10.

 

Exactly.

 

1. This thread is about Mayweather AT 130.

2. In an ATG list at Lightweight, you should consider the years that the fighters were active AT Lightweight. Not the total years of the career.

 

I know its your list and your opinion, but Ortiz cant be below Jack and Chavez at 135, Chavez only had a few there, though good opposition and imo looked the best he ever did, but Ortiz was the best of his era at 135, trully one of the elite there

 

Correct, 100%

 

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LIGHTWEIGHTS:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Benny Leonard
3. Joe Gans
4. Ike Williams
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Carlos Ortiz
7. Tony Canzoneri
8. Henry Armstrong
9. Beau Jack
10. Billy Petrolle
11. Lou Ambers
12. Alexis Arguello



JR. LIGHTWEIGHTS:

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Alexis Arguello
3. Kid Chocolate
4. Sandy Saddler
5. Azumah Nelson
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Genaro Hernandez
8. Samuel Serrano
9. Manny Pacquiao
10. Flash Elorde
11. Bobby Chacon

 

good post and besides the top 10 theres still guys like Dejesus,Buckanan,Montgomery,Joe Brown,F.Welsh,Armstrrong,Angott,Wolgast,Carter rank ahead of Mayweather.
By the way wheres Whitaker?

 

Julio Cesar Chavez would knock Floyd out at 130

 

It's debatable still @ 130 regardless...
to place a guy against those names IMO.
with his limited amount # of fights & quality of opponents.

 

Top 5 Jr. Lightweight ever is we must have a debate but I'd see him #1. Bring on the would/schmould ladies...

Outside top 20, perhaps top 30, at 135 lbs.

Outside top 50 to 100 in every other weight category he fought in.