Floyd Mayweather Jr interview on ESPN.

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  1. Ringnut

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    Because you made valid points I guess. lol
     
  2. Rickypr18

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    Exactly. Pac is proven at higher weights while Marquez has only fought twice at 135 has never gone higher than that. Also, Floyd always mentions his last two pay-per-views as an example that he is a huge draw. The problem is that the two fighters that he fought in those fights were the real draw. So there is really no way to know what his real drawing power is. He most definitely attracts a lot of people (everyone knows who he is) to watch his fights (mainly in the hope of seeing him get a whippin') but not as many as he thinks. He is not the biggest draw in boxing right now. Unless Hatton and Pacquiao retire today.
     
  3. Knives7

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    He made himself look dumb, in my opinion. I mean all he did was harass Brian Kenny. Kenny was doing his job. He was asking the right questions and Floyd didn't answer the question. Floyd was asked why is fighting Marquez? His reponse: "you know nothing about boxing":-(. Kenny doesn't need to lace up a pair of gloves and fight. You don't need to fight to know boxing. Boxing facts is everywhere; if read properly you'll know the real champion in each division. He's an idiot. I'm not judging him harassly. I'm judging him according to his own action.
     
  4. Knives7

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    I find your argument very flawed.
    Pacquiao is alot different to JMM. Pacquiao has proven himself in the higher weight classes. He is still consider small though. Marquez who is still considered a super featherweight is fighting at 144 or 147. Mosley is a big draw like JMM if not Mosley is a bigger draw. Mosley can draw about 20000 - 30000 people.
    Not all Mexicans will buy JMM fights even his fans.
    Styles etc.. etc.. is not necessary when comparing FM/MP fight. Floyd did get a SD.
    Pac doesn't need Floyd. If he does fight Floyd that will add up to his record. Floyd needs Pac IF he wants his former title back and IF he wants more money.

    Floyd is dumb for thinking that he is still the p4p champ. He retired. :deal
    He didn't own Kenny. He owned himself. Harassing Kenny did not make him win. He made himself look stupid.
     
  5. Solid Chin

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    Bro Im not disputing that fact and I even made reference to it in one of my posts about the Mosley and the 5 losses and yes I remember that interview back then and he does contradict himself left right and center but what you got to understand is that even if Floyd fought Mosley tomorrow and beat him, the critics will probably say, Mosley was not right or Mosley was past his prime or Mosley turned old in one night in there. He will never get the credit for his wins.

    I think most fight fans and the critics just want to see him fight these guys instead of just talking about them as if they are already beat.
    So I dont disagree with you bro but at the same time I can understand why Floyd reacts that way when questioned like that.
     
  6. Solid Chin

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    Brian Kenny did make Valid points and I would not argue against them but some of the points he chose to stick to for example, Mayweather choosing to Fight Marquez instead of Pacman and then going onto say that Floyd is choosing to fight a man who is a lightweight, to me I think that is where Kenny Owned himself because it seems orite for everyone to say oh, Manny started out at 106lbs but then it's still orite for people to say that he is more equal in size to Floyd than Marquez but yet its orite for Pacquiao to fight Marquez and for Floyd to fight Pacquiao but not for Marquez to fight Floyd.

    He lost the entire debate right there. But he did make good points but to me it was like he just wanted to get that reaction out of Floyd and Floyd Obliged.

    If Floyd had of answered him in a more diplomatic way it would of made Floyd look better but I do still think Floyd set him straight but at the same time the only thing I did not agree with was when Floyd referred to Shane's 5 losses which was stupid because Marquez has 4 losses and doesn't hold a welterweight title but he is still fighting him
     
  7. Solid Chin

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    I could also turn it around and say that Brian Kenny started to harass Floyd first. Kenny was doing his job but as Floyd said he is an armchair viewer regardless if he is interviewing Floyd because when Floyd fights its Floyd taking the shots not Kenny. Kenny will be comfortable sitting at home with popcorn in his lap.

    On the flipside I do understand that Floyd does need to fight all of the top welterweights to get all the crtics off his back but even if he beat Cotto, Mosley, Clottey, Margarito, Damn even Berto, the critics would still bring up 1 more name in Paul Williams providing he has been winning and then what would we expect Floyd to do if he wanted to retire at this point.

    I mean how many fighters or fights would he need to have for his legacy to be completely cemented in history???
     
  8. JdMcNudgent

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    What he needs to do.... Is start fighting guys in his own weight class and that arent on the downfall of there careers. If he beats Cotto, Pac, or hell even mosley he deserves credit.. I gave him credit for beating Hatton, i would of liked to see that fight at 140 but it wouldnt of made that much of a difference.
     
  9. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Because you have a shitty avatar with a ***** on it. And until Cotto and Shane stop ducking PW, their fans shouldn't have a motha****in thing to say about Floyd's business tactics.


    What the **** man? An entire division basically freezes out the one guy who would be favored to whip all their asses, with the lamest ****ing excuses about PPV numbers and promoter arguments and **** like that...


    And you bitches try to single out Floyd for not fighting Shane?



    What about Shane blatantly ducking PW, saying he doesn't like the style matchup?? WTF!

    And Cotto hiding behind his promoter calling out people, but soon as he is asked about PW, the ****** don't know what the **** to say so he sys "I'll fight who ever my company puts in front of me"


    GTFOH!
     
  10. JdMcNudgent

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    Man your ****... Shane already said he will fight floyd and cotto. He just wants to defend his title. Cotto has never called anyone out and i doubt he is running from Paul Williams.... But out of all the guys you just mention i dont see them going to try to get leight wights to move 2 classes up to fight them. I hope mayweather losses to marquez then maybe all nut huggers will leave the forum.
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

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    You should pay attention to the world around you instead of being blinded by PBF hatred. Shane has said on more than one ocassion that he was not interested in fighting Paul... AndPW has been calling out Cotto since before he fought Margarito. I don't give a **** about Floyd, really, but he ain't any worse than anyone else. Everyone says "it's a business" when their favorite fighter does it, but somehow PBF gets called out all day every day by people who couldn't punch their way out of a paper ****in bag.
     
  12. JdMcNudgent

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    I agree Paul Williams is being ducked... He is alot like winky... A risky fight with an absolute **** following... You dont get $$ to fight PW, I hope somebody gives him a chance. But dont forget he lost to Quintana (I know he whipped his ass in the rematch) but you dont get a crack at an elite fighter when A. Your not an elite fighter(yet) B. You Lose to Quintana under a year ago. C. You dont have a big following... He is still got some growing to do. I wouldnt give him a shot yet either. And Cotto dont call any shots on who he fights thats arum.. go cry to him
     
  13. NeckBreaknAiken

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    First of all, that Quintana1 fight was over a year ago.


    Second of all, it was 4 fights ago, so he has gone 4-0 3KO since that time.


    Third, if you want to argue about who is bringing PPV numbers and $$, then you are no better than Floyd, which makes you a ****in hypocrite. Like I said, when your favorite fighter does it, it's "business" but when Floyd does it, it's "cherrypicking"


    Fourth, you must be outta yo goddamn mind to say that PW is not an elite fighter. Who at 147 would you favor to beat him? Who at 154 would be favored to beat him? Who at 160 would be favored to beat him? Now add it all up and you might come up with 3 names total. That ain't elite?

    Or do you say "elite" based on being well-known? Because if so, then ODLH is still the greatest most elite fighter in the world today.
     
  14. JdMcNudgent

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    First he lost to quintina little over a year ago... It was febuary of 08. Telling me losing to a guy like that doesnt set you back for getting a big money fight? And nobody is going to fight a hot prospect for no money when there is big names to fight... Like Mosely and Pac man where mayweather would make the most money.

    I will give 3 easy.. Mosley, Cotto, Pavlik. And there is a difference.. PW has never even had a Pay per view fight.
     
  15. NeckBreaknAiken

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    You sound worse than Mayweather in te interview...:lol::lol::lol:


    Prospect? PW took the ****in belt from Margarito, and lost it, but took it back. Of course a loss sets you back, but not as much if you avenge it brutally the way PW did. Cotto? He lost by stoppage, and instead of getbacks, he fought Jennings...:huh So somehow he is more deserving now?


    Again, if Floyd were to say those exact same words about a guy in the division, you wold be up in arms... Be consistent, instead of ranting about May. Stop being such a hypocrite...


    You wanna make the ridiculous argument that PW doesn't deserve to fight anyone because he's never had a PPV?????? Is that you Bob Arum?