Floyd Mayweather Jr. is just another Rocky Marciano

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  1. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Walcott has a Shavers like rep among 40s and 50s contenders as one of the eras hardest punchers, and his angles and hand speed made him very deadly. The leftuppercut he caught Rocky cold with KOed Charles for the title.

    Louis at his best eventually found everyone, my opinion is valid.

    And Moore never fought Louis so by that irrational logic your comment regarding Marciano, Moore, and prime Louis is also irrelevant.
     
  2. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    unplug your computer:verysad
     
  3. boxfan22

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    Another excuse. He got knocked down by two old men. Plain and simple.

    "The Muhammad Ali of 60’s was the fastest heavyweight ever. In the May 5, 1969 Sports Illustrated, Ali’s jab was measured with an omegascope. Ali’s jab, it was found, could smash a balsa board 16.5 inches away in 19/100 of a second. It actually covered the distance in 4/100 of a second, which is the blink of an eye. Jimmy Jacobs, who owned the world’s largest collection of fight films, said that on film tests with a synchronizer Ali’s jab was faster than that of Sugar Ray Robinson. Jacobs contended that Ali was not only the fastest heavyweight, but also the fastest fighter he ever saw on film.

    Your opinion is invalid. My fact is valid.

    I'm comparing Louis and Marciano. Your post is irrelevant.
     
  4. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In a way you're right as Marciano also fought fighters when they were past their best.

    Listen guys the words came from the mans mouth himself "It's all about TIMING" and he wasn't talking about punch timing or money.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    Not tbat simple.



    If every HW in history wasn't measured, invalid claim. Patterson is often cited as the fastest.

    You brought Ali up.
     
  6. boxfan22

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    It is that simple because facts are staring you right in the face. Ali's anchor punch against Liston is the fastest punch in history. Watch Ali's fight against Brian London. No other heavyweight in history has displayed hand speed as fast as that. Your argument is invalid.

    Floyd Patterson was fast because he would literally jump off his two feet to knock out his opponent. He was also a small light heavyweight. Wasn't quick enough to match Ali.
     
  7. The Mongoose

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    What argument? I haven't presented one. I favor prime Louis over Marciano but not based off the tiresome "old man" one liners you are trying to pass off as anlysis.

    There is no way you can prove Ali is The fastest puncher in HW history. It is generally accepted that prime Patterson was...with Tyson, Louis, and Dempsey not far behind. Ali is generally regarded as having the fastest feet in his prime.
     
  8. boxfan22

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    It's been proven that Ali punched the fastest in boxing history. His jab was faster than Sugar Ray Robinson's jab and compare the size difference between both men. It's facts. No, Ali is regarded for having the best footwork in boxing history. Even Bruce Lee copied his footwork.
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

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    See we as boxing fans discuss performances in the ring and quality of opposition. And Mayweather is 23-0 against past, present, or future champs. By far the best of any man in history. It just is what it is. His resume is out of this world. Throwback to past eras where fighters faced high numbers of the best, top 5, and top 10 ranked opponents. Despite being in this era of low quantity of fights, large promotion of fights, protecting of belts, avoiding of style match ups, etc. he has faced a number of high quality challengers/champions that rivals most of the best fighters in history and he has defeated all of them showing such few weaknesses along the way... Sorry that it took all these years to sink in for some and even more sorry that it will take many more years to sink in for others.
     
  10. boxfan22

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    Bravo, you just wasted your time stating your love about one boxer that dosen't put his fans first.

    Keep dreaming. Ali is the only boxer that's unparalleled in the sport. His legacy is untouchable and the unsurpassed feats he achieved for the sport will never again be repeated by another boxer. He is a guy that became bigger than the sport. No other boxer is nothing compared to him because he's the Father Of Boxing. Records mean nothing because it's all about the quality of your opposition. There will be question marks on why Floyd Mayweather Jr. never fought prime Manny Pacqiuao, prime Miguel Cotto, etc. The will also be question marks on why he avoided other fighters such as Antonio Margarito.

    A suggestion, go and google about boxing history and understand the Father Of Boxing's greatness. Otherwise, stop being a clueless and ignorant fanboy.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Your post is more flamboyantly fanboy for Ali. Soooo... word.

    EDIT: This thread about Floyd being just like Marciano, by the way.
     
  12. boxfan22

    boxfan22 Active Member Full Member

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    Not at all. You're stating an opinion. I'm stating facts you've never heard before because of your lack of knowledge on boxing history. You should feel honoured because I'm the only TRUE boxing fan on this forum.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

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    Dude nobody ever questions Ali's greatness, why you getting sore?

    Plus, your statements to me seem to be describing Ray Robinson or Henry Armstrong, but hey, whatever works for you.
     
  14. boxfan22

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    The fact is you don't know the feats Ali achieved and what he accomplished for the sport of boxing. The boxers you mentioned did nothing for the sport. Ali was the one that revolutionized and transcended the sport to new heights.
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, that was Jack Johnson. Ali was hated more than Floyd is today. FACT!