Floyd Mayweather Jr : Pacquiao is an extraordinary fighter

That is very true.
I was in extreme poverty most of my life, but I still had food most of the time(couple bad years in baltimore), but it is nothing like having your dad eat your dog.

 

I posted this before, but I really believe it is the best Pacquiao video I have seen.

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I believe Pacquiao has always had great stamina to go with his quick heavy-handed punches. I think since he was declared Pound for Pound #1 by most, right before the Diaz fight, he's been using more of his boxing skills and picks his spots better when going on the attack. This adjustment was necessary since he's been fighting naturally bigger guys.

 

floyd: "pac is an average fighter at the very start he must be on something now"
joyboys: "yes master, we believe"

 

Floyd is a *****... Pac was never Ordinary ,, just watch footage of him when he was 16

 

Pac has always had a huge upside based on his natural attributes and it seems that his upside has just recently been fully realized. As far as PED's, I'd be more prone to question the quality of his body as he continues to move up in weight, and the way he's carrying that power and speed, and perhaps even getting stronger. Freddie Roach did his best to drain Oscar and not fight Cotto at 147 however, so maybe his power is not as devastating as people imagine. Moreover, he did win those fights more by completely overwhelming his opponents with speed and movement than power(not including Hatton).

I'm very interested to see what Pac's power looks like against a Clottey who re-hydrates to like 165 on fight night. If Pac really hurts or knocks Clottey out(something not even the plaster-fisted Margarito could do) then I will really have some questions about him.

 

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Precisely, often times it does. Pacquiao's speed, location and his ability to punch from odd angles(where guys can't see it coming) contributes to his knockout ability. But did you look at Oscar at the end of their fight? He put a physical hurting on Oscar and that wasn't due to punch location. I'm saying if I see that with Clottey, it'll raise questions in my mind.

 

I think Floyd's talking about losses. I mean when you think about it, up until a few years ago... Pacquiao had 5 fights on his resume that he didnt win, add another 2 bad performances to that where he could have lost/not won: Marquez II and another early fight that he was losing until he got a lucky KO (going by hear say but w/e). Say thats SEVEN performances Pacman might not have won. And now hes almost unbeatable the past couple years.

 

^^^True, but Freddie Roach carefully chose/manipulated(catchweights) his fights from Oscar on.

 

lol, well Oscar was at 147 the welter weight limit... he fought Hatton at his best weight of 140 and only Cotto he fought at 145, and Cotto weighed 146 for the Clottey weigh-in ... 1 lb? Big ****ing deal.. you really have no clue what you are talking about

 

LOL... you really love Pacquiao don't you? That was quite an emotional response. Freddie Roach never concealed the fact that he wanted to get guys to come down in weight to weaken them.

Should be an easy task for a welterweight. For a junior middleweight(which Oscar has been for the last 7+ years), not so simple. He lost 8 pounds and got weaker to get in that ring with Pacquiao, while Pacquiao gained 7 pounds and got stronger. Pac weighed MORE than De La Hoya(who was dehydrated) on fight night.

For Cotto, Roach wanted to get Cotto to come down to 143 to weaken him, but they ultimately agreed on 145. Pacquiao, by Roach's admission was walking around at 150 during that training camp.

Cotto weighed in at 144 for that fight and Pac at 145. It's not just about what they weigh in at though, its about what they re-hydrate to on fight night. Freddie Roach knows this, thus his strategy. Pacman quite possibly weighed more than Cotto on fight night due to re-hydration(weights on the day of the fight were not released). Most people that know boxing realize that losing even 2 pounds for a fight has a considerable effect on your body.


Stop defending whats obvious. Freddie Roach clearly stated on several occasions leading up to those fights and otherwise that getting guys to come down in weight to weaken them was a strategy. It doesn't mean Pacquiao should not get credit for those wins, it just means he did not fight the De La Hoya that other guys fought and maybe even Cotto.

 

Yeah I just said it like that because I was adding the Marquez WIN after that as a hypothetical LOSS