***Floyd Mayweather Jr. VS Antonio Margarito @ 147lbs***

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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Then put it in the post HOW something happens. You're just like Amsterdam....just say what you think WILL happen and don't back it up with anything. :roll:
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I did give you how something happens - you took it totally different than what I was trying to say.

    Don't compare me to anyone else you still haven't responded to what I wrote in my previous thread.
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

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    No he didn't ... especially against Santos ... I remember seeing him get hurt with a body punch against Santos (after hurting Santos)

    He didn't cut against Cintron both times? ...

    He didn't cut against Santos and Williams?

    No matter what you think of my posts they are what they are ... and you still haven't said anything about what I had wrote.

    So Margarito has good side to side movement? .... he doesn't move forward in a straight line? ... he doesn't wing shots from a distance? ... he has good head and shoulder? .... he has good defense? ... he doesn't get hit alot? ...

    Cintron was landing on a consistant basis with Margarito ... so did Williams ...
     
  4. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    If im not mistaken the matched was stopped after the 9th rd because of a cut,
     
  5. Bazooka

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    Floyd doesnt have much power to make Margarito respect him enough to stay away from him, and if Floyd runs the entire fight he wont win running like that, my take on the fight is Margarito will pressure Floyd early.
    Floyd will attempt to pot shot and move he will be very content with that becuase that is going to be his only game plan, however Margarito will score in this fight, people act like Margarito doesnt have a defense.
    Okay here is one fact nobody can deny, in his fight with Paul Williams, Margarito limited Paul to about 200 plus landed shots out of around 1100 thrown from Paul, so there goes the theory of this man not having a defense.
    Floyd did get hit often and alot by a fighter who most of you say only has one hand, Oscar De La Hoya, who is also much older these days, Tony is still in his prime.
    Floyd loves to lay on them ropes and counter, if he does this with Tony he loses the fight, his only shot is to keep this fight in the center of the ring and pot shot, but in doing so after about six rounds of work Floyd will slow down, the work rate he will need to keep Tony off of him will be too much to be using his legs the way he needs to.
    in the later rounds Tony will step it up a notch, and push Floyd back to the ropes, now here is where looping shots are a good thing, the way Floyd keeps his arms, in that cross over defense style, and the way he slips ducks and rolls will line him up perfectly for that looping right hand.

    say what you will but honestly you cant really predict a winner, you can say who you think might win but until the fight actually happens its up in the air.
    I am chosing Margarito in this fight becuase he is the hungrier of the two, and the old timers will tell ya, a hungry dog hunts well.
     
  6. Bazooka

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    A cut that was caused by a headbut it went to the cards.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Once you realize what everyone else did to Margarito doesn't mean Mayweather would, then you'll have reached enlightenment. What you post on Margarito, or what you're asking, don't mean ****.

    Margarito DOES NOT move side to side much because he has not needed to as much. Do you not know that? I guess not since you're the one asking about it. The rest is more your fanboy talk.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    What was there to respond to? What you say WILL happen? Well, since you have no ****in clue would MIGHT really happen, it's not really a post requiring a reponse now is it?

    You saying what you think will happen does not equal saying HOW he does it. Basically, the type of post you make you can put in any thread involving Mayweather vs. anyone. That's how simplistic and interchangable they are.
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    Margarito would pressure Floyd and gets his ears boxed off. 15 people pick Margarito out of 138, on a board that hates Floyd. That should tell you something.

    I'll give my analysis on this blowout a little later.
     
  10. Bazooka

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    As I said its all a matter of opinion, if DLH can keep a close fight with Floyd while Oscar is past his best years I am sure that Margaritos pressure will be enough to make up for the lack of skills he has in other areas, Margarito is never out of shape has one hell of a chin and throws around 80 shots per round, he walks you down that simple, Floyd will not box his ears off Floyd will pot shot until his legs fail him.
    I dont care about polls, there is one reason the fight has not happend and that is becuase Floyd is too scared to fight the man, I am sorry but had anybody offered me 8 Million to fight him I would have jumped out of bed for that kind of money, and you cant say Floyd had mad money prior to being offered that 8 million that just isnt true.
    Bottom line is Floyd fears Tony his actions have proven that much louder than the words his fans spit.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    :lol: Don't give us that HATE ****. It is NOT impossible to see that Margarito could outwork Floyd for a UD. And if anyone is hated more in this board then Floyd, it's Margarito.

    HAve you recently watched Mayweather fight? Have you noticed how less effective MAywether is when the other guy is giving him constant pressure? Castillo gave him pressure the whole fight, gave Mayweather fits. Judah Hatton and DLH had their most success when they too pressured him. Except they could not keep the pressure up. MArgarito would most likley NOT get discouraged and allow Mayweather to get comfortable. DLH and Judah went too large of peroids of time where they just feined or did nothing. Margarito is NOT going to be one to NOT throw punches for a long period. Especially when he knows Mayweathers punches won't deter him.
     
  12. Danny_Rand

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    Margarito's punch output against Mayweather would go down to around 60-70 per round. And he would only land at a rate of around 20%, as do all Floyds opponents. Floyd is excellent at nuetralizing the punch output of fighters. Floyd beat Oscar clearly 8-4, the judges were smoking hemp that night and werent seeing the same fight everyone else saw, as Kellerman alluded to after the fight. Oscar was virtually done by round 9. Plus this was a 154, you are talking about a fight at 147. Floyd will outbox Margarito on the ropes and in the middle of the ring, Margarito isnt nearly as fast as Oscar and Oscar has the best jab in boxing. Hell Margarito vs Oscar at 154 is a pick em fight. Hell as Floyd Sr said it might end up Gatti V Floyd 2. Margarito doesnt have the speed to contend with Floyd, he couldnt even contend with friggin Joshua Clottey. The only reason he's lasted this long at welter is because he's bigger then everyone else.

    Floyd made more then that beating actual titlests in Judah and Baldomir. Why would Floyd be afraid of someone who got beat by Paul Williams, taken to school half the fight by Clottey and losing to a C level fighter like Santos.

    Trust me, once Cotto despenses of Margarito, he will forever be forgotten of. He wont even be Zab Judah level.
     
  13. pit

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    I highly doubt floyd will slow down , your depiction of floyd's style is of a person who can only pot shot and run, which is far from the truth .

    Floyd has other facet of his boxing game witch stem from one "Solid conditioning" Im not sure if you have seen any of his workout on youtube but its nothing short of incredible as most of floyd sternest credit will agree, so I highly doubt Margartio will press floyd until he is totally exhausted with out risking getting exhausted himself.
    Floyd can do more then just pop shot , as he can counter off his defense , going backward , and as we saw in the Hatton fight moving sideways also , I don't care who you are if you get hit with enough shots you don's see coming you will rethink your attack approach .

    Floyd just doesn't run around the ring aimlessly trying to avoid getting hit , he does have a porpoise to what he is doing , he moves and set traps and counters where he can hit and not get hit.

    True Margarito has great chin but like anyone else there only so meany time you can rely on a solid chin before it start to give, and even if his chin is just as sturdy to day as it was yesterday , no one is able to take too many body shot to the soloplexus which floyd is a expert at landing against taller fighters .. this is a fight ether fighter can win but the favor is in floyd court and Im totally convince that margartio can walk through all of floyd shots floyd can counter , pop and defend all night if he has too.
     
  14. Bazooka

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    So hung up on them nuts you even make a stupid as statement like that, Williams is a legit top Welter weight and a single point loss does not mean Margarito is garbage.
    I will allow you to continue to make an ass of yourself just for Sunday afternoon entertainment purposes only.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

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    What a dope. Are you actually saying with all the Mexicans on this board Margarito is hated as much as Floyd? Get out of here. Still, nobody is insane enough to pick Margarito over Floyd in a fight. Floyd is a master boxers, Margarito isnt a master boxer, he comes forward, throws alot of punches, takes alot of shots, ala against Cintron, doesnt have a master jab like Oscar used to pressure Floyd to the ropes, he would essentially be a slower footed swinging Hatton, just with more size. And easy target for Floyd in the middle of the ring. Again you have no real boxing analysis capabilities. Proven by the fact you try and use the Oscar fight against Floyd when Oscar actually has an excellent jab, even though it wasnt nearly effective as some fools on here claim, it was good enough to atleast back Floyd up a little.

    :rofl :-( Castillo was able to pressure Floyd when he had a torn rotator cuff, in the second fight where did that pressure get him? Nowhere. The fight was over by round 8 on the scorecards. Hell you could probably look at the judges scorecards and think the fight was somewhat close, it wasnt. Floyd starts off slow to figure out his opponents. Ala Hatton and Judah. After round 5, both those fights were blowouts. Infact Judah probably took more of a whoopin then Hatton, he just wasnt knocked out like Hatton. Neither landed much of anything. Hatton rarely landed more the 10 punches per round. Floyd actually chose to stalk Judah and not back up most of the fight but fight him because Roger knew Judah cant last in a real scrap. And what is the reason all three of these fighters couldnt keep the pressure up? Because of Floyd lol. That is the only reason, its hard to pressure someone who keeps catching you with lead rights in the face, and when you finally do catch him you cant hit him against the ropes and he's catching you in the chin with clean counters. Hatton is a much better pressure fighter then Margarito, all you need to do is watch the Kosta Tszyu fight, Kosta hit Hatton with his best and couldnt stop him. Lastly, how many rounds between all 3 of those fighters did they win against Floyd after round 5? 2 or 3 combined? And you think Margarito would do any different, get the hell out of here. It would be a boxing clinic.