***Floyd Mayweather Jr. VS Antonio Margarito @ 147lbs***

This seeming SAFE prediction "Too fast, too skilled". I mean if that's the basis of a analysis, then what's the point of posting if that's all you're gonna say in a nutshell? Judah had more speed and skill them Baldomir and arguably Clottey. Much more then Rafael Pinda who he barely sqeuaked by. Meldrick taylor had too much speed and skill for Julio Cesar Chavez as well it seemed. Tyson had speek, power, and he looked the more skilled between he and Douglas. WHo was faster and more skilled in Cotto vs. margarito. There are too many example of a guy losing who had more speed and skill then his opponent. Not to mention, there are so many other attributes then speed and skill to examine. Size (there own size and the size of their opponents), mental / physical toughness. Hunger. Does Mayweather seem like someone who's hungary? He sounds like a dude who's had enough to eat. Another thing, how do Mayweather's hand hold up and what does he do to keep them from damage while trying to inflict some of his own? WTF good are fast hand and skill if you aren't throwing much because everytime you do your hand hurts and the other guys doesn't budge or blink?

 

Lance, if Cotto could do it for 7, Floyd can do it for 12.

Cotto has never fought off his back foot and he had Margarito looking silly at times.

Floyd has made his entire career fighting off his back foot.

 

but Cotto has alot more pop than Floyd and could at least slow down Margarito a little bit when he was landing those power shots. The way Margarito took Cotto's shots, I doubt Floyd would even make him blink.

Like i said before the Cotto-Margo fight i think Margo poses a big problem for Floyd because Floyd cannot get him to stop in his tracks or even slow down no matter how flush he hits him.

 

I like that response, but every single person that has ever fought Floyd always says that he hits a lot harder than they expected. Surely you would have to be a fool to think that Floyd would stop or really hurt Margarito with his fists, but it would be Floyd's feet that stopped Margarito from throwing.

In his bouts with Clottey, Williams and Cotto, Margarito showed that he does not cut the ring off very effectively and when they used lateral movement, his punch count dropped significantly because he only throws when his feet are set. Williams and Cotto both slowed later in the fight and Margarito found more success. Clottey actually moved more later in their bout and although Margarito's punch count didnt really drop, his connect rate suffered big time.

 

Bull**** logic.

Cotto was still stopping and planting for the most part to get his punches off.

Yeah, fighting smaller guys as well. Unless you think Margarito's size is a none factor here. Margarito gets around the ring a lot better then most will give him credit for.


Are his continually bad hands another non-factor? How does he over come that problem? Punching LESS? Or softer.

 

Why So?

Yes he was, but his feet are a lot slower than Floyd's. Floyd would most likely be able to stop fire and get out a lot faster.

Of course its a factor. A major factor. But Floyd is much better defensively than Cotto and they have the same reach. If Cotto could stick and move, Floyd could as well. And fighting smaller guys is not the point, its the fact that it takes more energy to fight off the back foot and Mayweather has been doing it his entire career without ever showing signs of fading. Not to mention he has never been wobbled or dropped by fighters of the level that Cotto has.

Yeah thats the reason that he retired. It could turn out to be a major factor in this potential bout, but i repeat, it would be his feet and stamina that would win this bout, he wouldnt have to rely entirely on his fists.

 

Void has proven, for a long time, that he is very afraid of Margarito. Those picking Void also picked Cotto to beat Margarito and Thompson to easily beat Vlad.

 

Yes he did want Margarito when the Gomez fight was signed, the offer was made and Margarito declined. Just like when Margarito's offer was there and Floyd decline, only difference is that Floyd had FAR better options, Margarito had Manuel Gomez.

 

I never said Cotto isn't a good boxer, of course he is, my bet was to see him box and win this fight against Margarito simply because I KNOW he can box.

Margarito doesn't cut off the ring well, YOU must be crazy if you think he does. It was literally funny the way he would follow Cotto sometimes with Cotto easily avoiding his predictable punches only till he got tired that he couldn't and had to take them.

 

:bart Matter of opinion because I think he does it well.

 

Then you need to watch better pressure fighters that know how to cut off the ring and hopefully your opinion will easily change.

 

Another sucker who fell for that bogus face-saving offer from Fraudatsch

 

Sure, give me some suggestions. :smoke

 

Floyd very Wide UD, he has the skill to keep Margo off him. As much as i dont like Floyd i still feel he would dominate the WW division if he wanted to

 

Morales, Barrera, DLH, Tyson, Lewis, Ali, Robinson, Hagler(specially), Leonard(late in his first fight with Hearns, that fight should be clear enough as it twists from Hearns chasing Leonard to Leonard chasing Hearns) and the list is endless. If you want a recent example check out the way DLH was chasing Mayweather and compare it with Margarito's in terms of leg movement. There are far more fights to mention too.