atsch You guys can't mean what you post. It's too good. Not even *******s masturbate to compubox so hard and obsess over making their fighter out to be literally flawless.
only reason I posted it is because I remember finding the pic for it the other day and he mentioned that exact round. :thumbsup
Fair enough. It's just ridiculous how there are certain posters who never come out to play until someone observes something remotely negative about their favorite, and all of a sudden their the most avid writers around, and then they have the gall to call other fighter's opinion's or approaches "skewed." Floyd's great, but given his skillset, he shouldn't get dropped against Judah and caught flush like that against Ortiz and nullified so completely against DLH. Winning isn't everything, boxing isn't black and white. When *****s and *******s can start actually watching boxing instead of worshiping boxers, they'll enjoy the nuances of the sport free from the enslaving bias that plagues them and this goddamn forum.
IMO, because of Pac squaring up so much when he punches/combos he is losing some of his southpaw advantages he would hold over floyd. having said that i feel the most dangerous punch for floyd would be pacs counter right hook which pac does not square up for i don't think.
I'll give you one thing. Floyd's defense imo isn't as good vs southpaws. It's still better than everybody else's currently though. Floyd can be countered by throwing the right hook over his left hook and I've seen this work a few times. Biggest example is Mosley because of how Floyd throws his left hook. He doesn't bring his elbow up enough. Then with straight lefts, I don't think it's that big of an issue. I only remember Zab really landing those more than once. I do think the straight left to the body epscially when followed behind a double jab is effective against Floyd. Floyd tries to block it when he has his high guard up with his elbow or just back away, but after a while I think he just says screw it.
The way he adjusts to southpaws is great to watch. Cutting the ring off and attacking their body when they least expect it hampers their mobility to the point that they can no longer control the angle, and they eat hard, accurate left hooks and right hands. I think he would have stopped Judah if it weren't for that low blow, and the body shots are always so loud. I just think that he takes so long to get that going, it may prove a liability against Pacquiao's natural mobility lining up the angle of his southpaw stance, and it's something worth noting. Not trying to bash. Good points on his guard as well.
yes he does That's why Whitaker is the greatest southpaw of all time. He would box off the backfoot and maintain his southpaw angles.
I agree with all that but Floyd is a bit too robotic-ky against southpaws. he's not fluid in any of his movements, and he never gets into a rythm ,he always fights out of rythm and looks for those single shots / counters ... no combinations, and his feet are always planted and going back / forth in lines instaed of moving laterally. It works well but I think Pacquiao's fluid ' dynamic offensive style + southpaw, would give him some hell. Although Pac's short reach will be a disadvanatage too. Imo a taller Pacquiao with a 72" reach would beat Floyd 10/10.
better to imagine Whitaker in a fantasy fight with Floyd than Leonard or Hearns. Whitaker and Floyd are about the same size.:thumbsup
yep, on fight night is is well fun, hard to dominate as well cos of the size :yep two of the best defensive fighters ever!
Ok, I've just taken the time out to get hold of a good copy of the fight, and reviewed the below replay properly. Fair enough, that right-hook that I thought landed, missed slightly. Couldn't see it properly in the below GIF, but on the slow motion replay in my copy it shows it just missing. But still, your above comment is wrong. I wish I had the tools to make a video/gif to show you, but Bogotazo has already outlined it here: Three shots managed to get passed Floyd's guard and land cleanly on his face. First the This content is protected , then the This content is protected , before missing ever so slightly with another right-hook moments later, and a This content is protected creeping through to land once more. Come on, it's right there for you to see. Surely you're not gonna' deny these three punches successfully getting through, are you? Unless you have problems counting, too :think. I wouldn't put it past your dumb ass. Oh, in regards to the below: You thick ****, the four shots (now correct to three) wasn't in reference to this clip. All I said about this was "he achieved a similar thing a minute or so prior to that incident". Again, if you don't know what similar means, an online dictionary describes it as: "Having a resemblance in appearance, character, or quantity, without being identical." (You get that last bit? Or do you need me to explain what 'identical' means as well?) So, by 'similar', I was simply saying he successfully lands a couple of shots which force Mayweather back to the ropes. A couple of shots that, I must make clear, do land for sure. Not maybe. They land. In fact, I've just watched it with slow-motion settings on VLC, and it goes like this: This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected So, if we go by your precious compubox numbers, 4 of the above 6 punches landed :good. (Please note, the above recorded punches aren't done justice by that low-quality GIF). So my point still remains. Floyd Mayweather, especially in that fourth round, had more issues dealing with Ortiz' southpaw attacks, than most other opponents. Don't get me wrong, he would have adjusted and continued to whoop him more convincingly, but Ortiz was finding a tiny bit more success than most people against Mayweather are accustomed to.