Floyd Mayweather Jr Vs Left Handers

Corruption has to be called out when its so obvious. There have been a few robberies in boxing with ******ed scoring. Does this mean we should ignore all judges scorecards? No. These systems are generally okay, but there's no point staying silent about it when they **** up.

 

Again, how am I a ******* when I had Marquez winning all 3 fights?

When all you do is try and defend Floyd from every ounce of criticism possible, nobody is going to take your opinion seriously as a boxing fan. I hope you understand that.

 

Again, I don't really care about that. Make another thread for it. Because in this one, I'm pointing out Michigan Warrior's hypocrisy for when compubox should be used or not (in the May-Ortiz fight).

 

I fail to see where compubox comes into it in the way you are infering. At best Ortiz was doing aswell as any Floyd opponent has ever done.

Before the De La Hoya fight, The Scene did an analysis of Floyd's compubox stats. Floyd averaged landing 51% of his power punchers vs his opponents. Against Ortiz he landed 49%. Floyds opponents averaged 5 punches landed per round. Ortiz averaged 8 punches landed per round. In rounds 1 and 3 he landed 5 and 4 punches landed respectively.


Now lets look at Floyds offensive output.

Floyd averaged 45 punches thrown per round in 18 title fights. Keep in mind that most of these occured at a lower weight class when Floyd was considered more active offensively.

Against Ortiz he averaged 52. Including throwing a whopping 67 punches in round 4, landing 52% of his power punches.


So not only was Floyd outlanding Ortiz by a wide margin, nearly 3-1. He was also outworking Ortiz, throwing around 1.6 punches to every 1 punch Ortiz through.


Does that sound like Floyd was uncomfortable to you? That Ortiz southpaw stance had him confused. That Ortiz was hitting Floyd more then usual. That Ortiz caused any discomfort to Floyd at all?


Sorry thats not what the data infers. Nor the eye test if you are a real Floyd fan that watches his fights.

 

Is Bogo the best poster on the General Forum? :think

I say yes :good

 

I'd say so, too.

But the one above you? :-(

 

Floyd barely won round 5 against Judah, Mayweather was getting tagged more then usual against Ortiz, if Pacquiao was taller he'd beat Floyd 10 out of 10 times!:rofl

Hilarious stuff. You Gander and Bozo should go on tour together.

 

Floyd Mayweather was floored twice by Shane Mosley in round two. :rofl

 

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Clottey had more success against Manny than Ortiz did against Floyd. If only Clottey could've used more distance to let some of Manny's punches hit air instead of blocked most of them with his gloves. He let Manny got off on him too many times when he had plenty of opportunities to threw first then moved out of reaching range, but he didn't. Most of Manny's jabs are going to be block by Floyd's left elbow, and Floyd will sometimes go over Manny's jab to shoot his own jabs/left hooks. Floyd's strategy to backing down southpaws is a good strategy even though it's a risky one. It not only allow him to get off first or sometimes at the same time as his opponent, but he leave them little to no room to get their offense going.

 

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Nobody was able to invalidate my points in that thread (as PBF24, who encouraged me to post it there, agreed), much like MW misunderstands the points made and starts posting irrelevant GIFs that make Floyd look good without ever disproving the fact that a failure to control the punching angle against a mobile southpaw is a liability.

Oh that's not the worst of it; "Marquez can't fight going backwards", "Chavez had one of the best defenses ever on the inside? Wow", and listing DLH, Margarito, and Vargas as all having the same "Mexican" style are my personal favorites.

Anyways, I'll re-post this, and biased nut-hugging *****s who have never boxed need not reply.

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Manny makes a ton of mistakes that people are very well familiar with by now.

But as I've said, I think Floyd has a few habits that can become mistakes that could prove dangerous liabilities against Pacquiao.

Failing to get that lead foot on the outside and neglecting proper in-range lateral movement will cost him, as he will be constantly susceptible to left straights behind a jab and as lead punches, to the body and head, as he backs up in a straight back or leans backwards in his angled stance:

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Cutting the ring off as he usually does against Southpaws to eliminate that angle is his probable line of action in the early-mid rounds, though if he attempts to apply pressure without still incorporating that movement of the lead foot to the outside (and Manny will be the most mobile opponent he's faced), he will throw out of position and expose himself to a hard right-hook counter, as well as land with his feet mis-aligned. His right hand can do nothing from that vulnerable angle either:

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Just my opinion and some things to think about.


(Sorry for the crappy quality. This is the best I can do until I put my video together.)

 

Glutton for punishment arent you. :rofl


So true or false. Mayweather barely won the 5th round vs Judah?

 

If anything his offense might be more dynamic. Floyd's best offensive performances where he's shown combination punching to the body and the head have come against Southpaws, Corley, Judah, Mitchell and Ortiz.

Floyds numbers power punching wise skyrocket against Southpaws.

Mayweather landed 61 power punches on Ortiz out of 125 thrown. A whopping 49%.

Against Mosley in the first 4 rounds, Floyd landed 41 power punches.

Also Floyd was putting alot more mustered on Ortiz, and southpaws in general, I think because he's more confident his right hand is going to land, wheras against more orthodox fighters he tends to touch guys alot and rarely punches with full force especially early in the fight. Its clear Mayweather was trying to get Ortiz out of there early.

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Now Bobozo, if getting Floyds lead foot outside the southpaws lead foot is so imperative, why is his connect percentage with the right hand so consistently high no matter who he fights?

 

What punishment? You don't have the maturity, the eye or experience to talk about boxing objectively, and have never invalidated my points.

And to answer your question, nothing happened for the first minute, and in the second minute Floyd won it with some great body-punching and left hooks/straight rights upstairs, and in the last 15 seconds Judah landed two flush lefts. Clear Mayweather round, but hardly the one-sided domination that followed in the following 7 rounds. What's your point?

Because they lack the mobility and/or the stamina when Floyd attacks. Ortiz's footwork is mediocre, and was still able to tag Floyd hard and drive him to the ropes at the end of the 4th, and then got knocked out in a moment of stupidity. Judah was way too stationary and was doing just enough to get his lead foot outside, and when Floyd cut the ring off, his mobility disappeared and withered under the body punching.