Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Lorenzo Aragón, July 31st 1996

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jan 28, 2013.


  1. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,967
    5
    Sep 16, 2011
    Thanks for the vid. That was a damn good amateur fight. Pretty high level stuff from two young fighters, despite some of the obvious youthful exuberance.
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

    63,174
    23
    Oct 27, 2010
    :lol: I had somebody yesterday in a thread tell me that Mayweather didn't get robbed and actually lost in the Olympics. He assumed I never watched it when in reality I've seen the fight more than once. :conf
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    ...Are they Bulgarian?
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    You don't see any Cubans on here spouting off that Aragón was shafted. :bart (and not to belabor the point, but he performed better against Mayweather than Todorov)

    Actually...as strange as it is you don't see him mentioned all that much, period, when the recent great Cuban amateurs are discussed. :conf

    Skills, power, and impeccable pedigree - and SO close to rejecting a future ATG from a medal berth. You'd think he would get more shouts...and that a lot more footage of him was available.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    Dating back to his loss to Augie Sanchez (avenged twofold) in an Olympic prelim qualifier, Mayweather should in all likelihood be riding a 51-0 streak...unless you would have favored Kamsing over him.

    The closest anyone has come to genuinely beating him since Augie Sanchez are Sanchez himself in one of their rematches, Aragon, Castillo, and De La Hoya. After that, I suppose Cotto.
     
  6. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

    7,094
    5
    Apr 27, 2011
    how many rounds did you give Oscar?
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    Same as Cotto, I think. 116-112. Difference is, DLH had a chance of doing better if he'd kept the jab flowing and not checked out mentally. Cotto fought his guts out and couldn't have really done any more than he did.
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,112
    7
    Aug 18, 2007

    This is why i respect the hell out of IB. The guy does his homework and have a lot of boxing knowledge. True boxing fan.

    I only research on dudes i bet lol and classic ATGs.
     
  9. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    9,475
    2
    Apr 21, 2011
    not sure, but I've seen him show heavy support for eastern euros :yep
     
  10. FrochFan

    FrochFan Active Member Full Member

    712
    0
    Mar 3, 2011
    Mayweather really is perfect.

    I was hoping that KD was going to be on some Rustico Torrecampo , Ross Puritty type crudeness, but it didnt really crack.

    Even the Iron chinned vitali klitschko has an embarrassing KO loss in his closet.
     
  11. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    29,921
    35
    Mar 31, 2007
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    :patsch I spoke too soon. :lol:

    There is an alternate upload of Mayweather vs. Aragon online, and the first comment is in Spanish and translates to "There were thirty (!!!) uncredited punches by Aragón; I thought he won it..."

    It's unclear from the phrasing whether this person thought Aragón deserved the 2nd round, or the match. (moot point, as the former directly implies the latter).

    I can see arguing a case for Aragón if you leave out a couple of Mayweather's more borderline scoring strikes or dismiss them as not quite clean enough to deem worthy of awarding...and obviously I'm a lot more liberal with handing out points than AIBA judges are, due to my higher sensitivity to jabs and body work - but no ****ing way in hell did either man land thirty blows in a single round. (or hell, in the match!!) 30 uncounted? :lol: That would be absolute madness if that somehow went overlooked.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    Yeah, it wasn't like Mayweather had his lights turned out or anything; just a cautionary tale regarding blind charges when an opponent has their back against the proverbial wall.

    He certainly never made that mistake again. :yep
     
  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

    27,489
    439
    Sep 27, 2008
    Great thread. Shame about Aragon, tho. Lmao LOTR.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

    401,407
    83,286
    Nov 30, 2006
    May as well go all-in...

    Besides the Mayweather and Thompson bouts already posted, this is the only complete Aragón match currently available online. It's his second decision (third overall meeting) over Sherzod Husanov.

    [yt]FNEqBQEcZP0[/yt]
    [yt]li5CziSJ9_c[/yt]

    Husanov is seven inches taller than Aragón. The disparity may have been less in 2003 when he was in his early twenties as they don't look quite that far apart in the video above, but male height actually continues to increase until age 25 so it's possible he underwent a spurt to reach his currently reported stature of 5'11". He did hulk over 5'8" Jhon Berrio. I do more or less trust Aragón being listed by multiple sources at 5'4" since he was a head shorter than a 19 year old Mayweather who ultimately capped off at 5'8". :conf

    Sher is currently 16-0-1 with eight knockouts, and has been ranked as high as #7 by the WBO in the top 20 by the WBC. He was twice an Olympian, but never obtained a medal.

    I've seen him a few times and been somewhat impressed. Upper echelon Euro level potential.

    His vicious knockout of fellow unbeaten prospect Maxim Chemezov stole the show on the Maskaev vs. Beck undercard.

    He beat hard-banging Colombian trial horse Jhon Berrio in his American TV debut on FNF. It wasn't the tidiest performance but he got it done (very wide on my card, and Teddy Atlas', and the most experienced of the assigned judges in Glenn Hamada). Similar type fighter to Shumenov.

    He was robbed in his draw with 12-0 Timur Nergadze, but avenged it with a UD a few months later. (strangely, two cards reflecting the near shutout but one having it close)

    He's by no means sure to acquire a world title at any point, but he's a solid competitor...and physically MASSIVE compared to Aragón. Yet El Barbaro on the downward slope of his career stopped him once and widely outpointed him twice. :good

    He still moved like a damn flyweight even getting up in age with half his life spent in the ring against world class opposition...and he showed little respect for Husanov's power, taking it with aplomb on the few occasions Sher was able to find him.