Floyd Mayweather Jr. .Vs. Mickey Walker @ 147

1. And? fighters have bad nights, in terms of ability there isnt a massive gulf in class from the limited footage Ive seen of Walker, he doesnt have much of a jab, which is essential in pressuring FMJ, otherwise he'll ust pick you apart
2. Who did he face that was a fast and defensively savy as Floyd? No one
3. Well the point is he isnt necessarly the bigger man, when both are at the WW limit, he has less height/reach here and he even weighed in as low as 144 earlier. Maybe Floyd would even be stronger than the WW Walker? Not saying he would but he might be

 

I'll give you that.

 

Mayweather doesn't like a rough, physical fight, Walker demands it. Result - Walker by 10th round K.O.

 

1. Based on the fact a jab is needed to neutralise speed, as is timing. Hatton ofcourse didnt have much of a jab and neither did Chavez, Mosley doesnt either, and Mosley's strength is way in excess of Walker, the mans powerlifts are staggering. Ofcourse he hasnt beat Mosley yet.

2. So your picking a fighter you've never seen fight to being defensively better and faster than FMJ He doesnt look near as quick in his training footage and I doubt he was as hard to hit. He would be stronger, but again he isnt actually taller and doesnt have more height/reach than FMJ. And Greb won

3. What about the Latzo loss? Latzo is said to have won due to boxing skill.

Britton beat Walker and lost to him at the age of 37. I've never seen Britton, but doubt his speed/defense are on the same level, especially at 37. And no Walkers loss wasnt debatable :yep

Theres the losses Tendler was smaller only fighting at LW the year before and weighed in at 142, pretty much like Mayweather fighting Marquez. And no Tendler wasnt a patch on Floyd ability wise.

I dont think both are tougher tests than Prime Castillo who had around 15lbs on Floyd on fight night in floyds first LW fight

We'll see how Floyd deals with a man far stronger than Walker in his next fight

 

I wouldn't say that Walker had no jab. He seemed to win the Ace Hudkins fight mostly with his jab. Only a fool would try to outjab Tommy Loughran or Max Schmeling while giving away as much as he did in height and reach so I wouldn't judge him based on those fights.

Also from the footage I've seen of Mike McTigue, admittedly an old version of him, he seemed to employ a similar "shoulder roll" defense and was a good counter puncher. Walker beat a younger McTigue and also KO'd him in one round.

 

See, the problem with this is the fact that a) Mayweather adapted nicely in the rematch, and won a clear decision, and b) Walker could be outboxed and outfoxed by fighters who generally relied on movement rather than power to win fights.

I'm not saying Walker can't win, but I do think that Floyd has his moments, and makes this interesting on the cards at the very least. Not a blowout or a whitewash either way, imo.

 

Got to say i wasn't impressed by Floyd in the rematch agaisnt Castillo.

He seemed to be giving about as much effort as say... Zapata against Laciar, but got away with it because he was fighting a far lesss dynamic fighter, with plodding feet.He quite well could have stepped things up had Castillo offered more(this was the fight that showed Castillo was nowhere near great for me), but it's not the quality rematch preformance it's often portrayed as imo.The epitome of coasting.

 

1. Just because a jab didnt work doesnt mean it isnt at least a vital set up tool

2. So based on that logic James Toney is the strongest middleweight of all time? He in fights all the time against mcuh bigger HWs

Also the Walker who in fought with HWs was 4years removed from the version at WW and a different fighter

3. Either way its exceedingly unlikely greb was either as fast or as defensively sound, especially after seeing his training footage but were speculating

4. either way it sounds like he outboxed him, have you watched it?

5. Walkers been outboxed, I see a better boxer in my view also outboxing him yes, why cant Mayweather do what Latzo did?

6. The fight was at 147, are we still playing the Mayweather is a small welterweight card compared to the same day weigh in welters?

7. Its hard to say without seeing Britton I can only speculate but at 37 his reflexs would be slowed, which is part of defense, also hes never listed with the top defensive fighters of all time, Floyd is

8. Hard to say as much without seeing him fight, but regardless he was past prime

9. Calm down I was comparing Marquez and Tendler, both having fought at LW within the year, both undersized at 142lbs

10. The Walker who fought Cruserweights had 30lbs more muscle mass, thats not the same as the WW version. Mosley has beastly strength for a 147lber and is known for 550lb deadlifts and 350lb benches

 

Watching Walker vs Schmeling will show you all you need to know about how he approached them differently to Toney.

Clutching at straws, as usual.

 

By the way The Rings article on Floyd vs Great Welters is awful.

It's like the author has used Boxrec as his primary source.

 

If you mean getting outboxed, picked apart and dominated yes he did approach them differently Toney was more than happy to fight inside against his HW opponents though, even though some were 60-70lbs heavier than Schmelling

And dont talk about clutching at straws when you avoid a retort as you slip away with your tail between your legs

 

I tell you what.

Lets put Floyd Mayweather in with Jack Sharkey and then see how good he looks.