Floyd Mayweather Jr. .Vs. Mickey Walker @ 147

You were listening to the sky commentary too much. Whenever they fought inside Mayweather got the better of it and Hatton couldnt really land. Cortez did brake up the clinches, the rules of boxing state thats what the ref is supposed to do.

If Cortez was harsher on Hatton, Im not sure he was, it would be because in his previous fight Cortez reffed Hatton made a fool of him by constantly hitting and holding (a foul) and faking a low blow that Cortez took a point for.

 

So when are we actualy going to see Mayweather beat a top level 147 pounder?

It would not amount to a verry strong case for him beating Walker but it would at least be a start.

 

Hes fighting the 4th lineal WW champ hes faced next, it will be 5 WW champs in total

 

Baldomir? Judah? Ancient Dela Hoya? Jww Hatton? None of them was a top level ww when Mayweather fought them. Cotto, Williams, Margarito were. Mosley would be the first now, even so he is part his best.

And all of them are at the very least two classes under Mickey Walker.

 

By no means everybody recognises Judah and Baldomir as lineal welterweight champions (or Mayweather for that matter).

ODLH everybody would give you.

Yes they are all solid fighters, but if you are talking about comparing Mayweather to the great welterweights of history then we are not quite there yet.

Mosley will be his biggest challenge yet.

 

You either didnt follow boxing 3 years ago or your being deliberately idiotic. When the Judah fight was signed Judah was by far the premier WW, undisputed champ with all 3 belts. Judah lost to Baldomir after the fight was signed, making him no2 and Baldomir no1. Mayweather beat them both. Margarito hadnt fought frequently and recently had 2 losses to Santos.

In that time Cotto wasnt even a welterweight, Hatton became a WW champ before Cotto. Cotto was a protected and irrelevant fighter until he took on a faded innactive Judah, a year after Mayweather faced him.

Also during that time Williams wasnt even a champ and hadnt beat anyone

Mayweather could have fought Margarito instead of Baldomir but it would mean signing a 3 fight deal and only getting an average of 7million per fight and forfeiting the massive Delahoya fight. Plus Baldomir was WBC and Lineal Champ, Margarito was only a WBOgus titlist.

Mayweather then fights Delahoya who is fresh off KO'ng Mayorga, who would later take Mosley into a war. He went all the way to 154, despite being a small WW and getting vastly outweighed. Delahoya was only 4years older than Mayweather

Hatton was the former WBA Welterweight champ and current Lineal 140lb champ. This was a fight Mayweather supposedly ducked at 140, despite Hattons father admitting the Hattons turned the fight down

As for them being levels below Walker, at least some actually had the skill to use a jab and Walkers comp is also levels below Mayweather and Walker lost at WW to fighers not as good a Mayweather. You can laugh at the men FMJ faced but most are faster and better defensively than Walker. Walker doesnt have anything floyd hasnt seen countless times before

 

Why the Hell would you influence me? I likePalomino AND Cuevas, don't get all schoolyard like you do with it

 

Who exactly doesnt recognise them as lineal lets look at the chain of lineage

DLh-Mosley winner - Lineal (arguably as they are 1 and 2)
Mosley loses to Forrest
Forrest-Mayorga - Wba-WBC unification (lineal standards are ususally WBA unifying with WBC or 1 and 2 in the division)
Mayorga-Spinks - WBC-WBA-IBF unification (definately lineal)
Judah beats Spinks
Baldomir beats Judah
Mayweather beats Baldomir

 

There is consensus up to Spinks.

Not everybody recognised Judah after he beat Spinks due to Spinks anouncing retirment in 2004 or other reason.

Here is the alternative view.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/welter.htm

 

What are you talking about Willis, Spinks fought twice in 04, in Dec03 and Feb05 and was in discussion for Tyszu and Mayweather fights

 

I can only conclude that he must have formaly anounced his retirment at some point in 2004.

In that event he would looose the lineage even if the various sanctioning bodies did not strip him.

 

BS, aside from you having no source of him announcing that

1 I never heard that at the time despite following all the boxing news,
2 if he formally announced his retirement he would have been stripped of his belts,
3, you dont fight every 4months and negotiate fights if your retired
4 Spinks hadnt made enough money to retire and was only 25
5 cyberboxing doesnt superseed over WBC/WBA/IBF and they've probably effed it up anyway

Theres a clear as day lineage and your source is simply incorrect

 

CBZ is a respected body that publishes academic articles on boxing and has a number of historians writing for it.

Their reasoning on this ocasion is not entirely clear to me but I am certain that there must be some basis for it.

If you disagree perhaps you should write to them.