Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Ray Robinson

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  1. Flea Man

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    I was referring to the Floyd part :D

    Am I being completely unreasonable then? Or can you see where I'm coming from? Honest answer please :good
     
  2. Flea Man

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    **** I didn't see this :lol:

    Love the references to Mitchell's wins over those two corpses as well ;)
     
  3. LittleRed

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    It is kinda odd.that Floyd hasn't really beaten as diverse a group of styles as one would expect going through that many divisions. Do you think that was intentional or was it just a matter of timing? Im trying to think of a master boxer whom he could have fought and in drawing a blank. Cause, i'm all honesty Judah and Mitchell don't cut it.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Probably a mix of both.

    I think he gets too much of the benefit of the doubt. He would not look as frequently infallible as he had done...ugh I'm not going through this again you know where I stand :D
     
  5. the cobra

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    Same score, other guy. I gave rounds 1,2,4,7, and 11 to Floyd, the other 7 to Castillo. I remember quite a few close rounds, so I could definitely see a draw and probably a Floyd win at a push. Round 3 could have easily gone his way, I remember. Gave that to Castillo by the slimmest of margins.

    I do think that, in general, Castillo won his rounds more handily. Watching it gave me the impression that he was the better fighter, honestly. Good on Floyd for settling that matter in the rematch. Good on him for digging deep when he had to the first time around, too. Castillo landed some heavy stuff here and there, and it seemed to be entirely his kind of fight from about the halfway mark on. Mayweather gutted it out and held his own the whole way through. Make no mistake, the guy's a fighter. He's a bit overrated for his tactical/technical brilliance, as you say, but a bit underrated for his heart and will. It's one of the more impressive things about him, I think.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Check out the 'what fights did you watch today' thread I recently re-scored it. Had it a draw before. See what rounds we disagree on.

    Could it be even I, the cynic, was bamboozled by Floyd's flash? ;)
     
  7. KuRuPT

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    This is a spite Thread and I actually like Floyd. Clear UD or KO for SRR
     
  8. Nightcrawler

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    I think it's partially both, as flea said. But at least some of the lack of diverse styles on his record is intentional. It's been done to death but he really could have fought better opposition, should have fought better opposition despite having a pretty damn solid resume.

    at 140, he avoided EVERYONE. there are various sides to it but he avoid zoo, hatton and cotto at various points in their respective careers at that weight. he had every reason to move up to face kosta but said in an interview why bother, he already lost one fight.

    at 147, he avoided EVERYONE. williams, margarito, cotto, pac, non-corpsey mosley, etc.

    at 130 and 135 though he basically cleaned out the divisions. a fight with mosley would have been great but I'll blame timing on that. a fight with either morales or hamed would have been blasted for them being too small. below 140 is where his resume matters and it isn't all time great.

    he didn't have a ton of master boxers to chose from either, you're right. nate campbell? meh.

    mentioning judah though, i scored that fight WAY closer than many. i give him 4 or 5 rounds depending on my mood and I damn well scored a 10-8 round for judah for the knockdown. judah basically took at least 3 of the first 4, and i think the 11th. add in the knockdown and it's tighter than some scores indicate. and judah is neither great, nor anywhere near his best
     
  9. the cobra

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    Perhaps it is I, the clever ******* in disguise, who just wants something with which I can discredit Floyd? :think:yikes
     
  10. Flea Man

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    :| You treat a sacred day like this to troll! It's your birthday, go outside ;)
     
  11. the cobra

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    Shows what you know. It was my birthday. The night has passed.

    I thought what we had was special! :|
     
  12. Flea Man

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    :| I feel bad now. Where da funk are you from mayne?
     
  13. the cobra

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    :| (not because I live in Amurrica. I'm just keeping it going)
     
  14. Flea Man

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  15. LittleRed

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    This thread got very awkward very quickly.