Floyd Mayweather jr. vs Sugar Ray Robinson (both prime)

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  1. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The biggest manipulator troll ever.
    Much bigger is much bigger and a little bigger is a little bigger and EVERYBODY understand the difference stupid manipulator.
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My bad, I meant the other Floyd.
     
  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So much bigger is what? 20 lbs? So 19 lbs is not much bigger then? Or maybe 15 lbs? But then 14 lbs is not big, right?

    No, using adverbs like "much bigger" can mean anything to anyone. You'd know that you shouldn't use that kind of argument, if you've ever had any contact with science.

    For me, the difference between 170 lbs and 200 lbs isn't that big. In boxing it is significant, but in normal life 30 lbs is nothing. Does it mean that 30 lbs is "much bigger" or "little bigger"?

    Robinson is bigger than Floyd and that's the end of this debate.
     
  4. he grant

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    Right, the prime Robinson who defeated LaMotta for the middleweight title at 155 was not bigger than the prime Mayweather who fought Gatti at 139 .. that's prime for prime. The thread says prime for prime .. If it asked said H2H at welterweight I'd still pick Robinson who was a larger man and a more natural welterweight than Floyd who was an all time great fighter at 130 - 140 but not an all time great welterweight in the highest tier .. as far as your attitude I'll ignore it as your posts do you the enough harm on their own.
     
  5. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    But we're obviously not matching up the version of Floyd who faced Chavez with welterweight Robinson. We'd take Mayweather of 2005-2007 who weighed 140-147. Robinson would have an advantage in height and power but not in reach and in terms of strength the stockier Mayweather should have the advantage over the more slender Walker Smith.
     
  6. Charlietf

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    Robinson was not in his prime at mw
     
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    Stop cherry picking nonsense .. he weighed over 150 for the Gavilan fight if I remember and even had to pay a fine ..
     
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    I disagree .. he was still in his prime and this was his career defining fight ..
     
  9. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali had his most important fights in the 70s but he was not in his prime, prime Robinson was at welter so stop talking trash
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Anyone with half a brain can clearly see that Robinson was prime all the way up until his first retirement.
     
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  11. RightLeftCombo

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    I think welterweight suits SRR more in their primes. Robinson's power and workrate likely gets him a decision over 15 rounds, imo. It might be close over 12, but I'd still pick Ray at 147.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Their reach is basically equal (I think we can both agree that the ½" advantage for Robi is negligible), but Floyd has to punch upwards, and is slower.

    Do you really think this is the type of fight where physical strength is a big factor? It's not like PBF is gonna fight him like Turpin, LaMotta or Fullmer did. He'll try and box with him, but he'll be trying to outbox the bigger, quicker, taller, better counter-puncher who also has the power to KO him.
     
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    You're displaying your limitations ... all you do is parrot 101 plot lines with no depth to your points .. Ali came off a three and one half year layoff and never regained his legs .. Robinson was highly active into the LaMotta bout and delivered an all time great performance .. if you tried to make a case comparing Ray to Ali post Maxim there is a argument there but I doubt you can flesh it out .. ;)
     
  14. Charlietf

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    Ask to everybody when was the prime of Robinson, welter or mw you simpleton
     
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    Predictable , you've got nothing but soiled panties ..