Floyd Mayweather Jr. would've been just as dominant in Sugar Ray Robinson's era

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  1. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    You are right, he is to bitchy and cherrypicker to fight in tha era, maybe he would had been selling hotdogs and beers at the arena or a trainer I could c that, but fighting Lamotta, Robinson, DeMarco, Gavilan, etc.. no way.
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The 1940's were filled with supremely talented welterweights, so I think Floyd's manager, had he been smart, would have kept him fighting at lightweight for as long as possible. But assuming he starts his career at the same time as Robinson, I could see Mayweather holding the 135lb championship for a little while. I think he had the talent needed to get by Angott, and maybe defend against the likes of Zurita, Montgomery and Jack...Although he might struggle against the quick, aggressive volume punching styles of the last two mentioned. But PBF's reign comes to an end if faces Ike Williams any time after 1946, methinks.
     
  3. naldo marshal

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  4. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    for he is a business boxer not a true boxer!
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a lot of people don't take into consideration is the fact that the mob had a hand in controlling the outcome of a lot of fights in those days. Fighters that were as talented as PBF often didn't get a fair shake as a result of it. Hell, Charlie Burley could easily have won titles at welterweight and middleweight, but was never given a shot by any of the champions during the time he was active.

    So, this argument is kind of a moot point. Someone as talented as Floyd could have reigned for a while, had they been connected. If not, he might not even get the chance to compete for the crown.
     
  6. Drew101

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    And one final point to make...Robinson never gave Burley a chance at the belt, but instead chose to face Gavilan and some other contenders instead. Zale opted to face Graziano, rather than LaMotta or Burley.

    So cherry picking, as it were, isn't exactly a recent phenomenon.
     
  7. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    :lol: especially because he's doing it to Carlos "****ing" Baldomir :rofl:nut
     
  8. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    And facing Gavilan was a picnic, just like fraud facing Baldomir or an underweight Marquez?
     
  9. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    No, shoulder rolled his way to victory and riding his bicycle to victory.
     
  10. Ant68

    Ant68 Active Member Full Member

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    Duran would have beaten Mayweather at lightweight pretty convincingly. As for Mayweather being SRR, what a load of.
     
  11. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It probably was an easier fight for him to take than facing Burley, to be honest.
     
  12. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In a very cursory way - taking into account there would really only be three divisions for Floyd to fight in during the Ray Robinson era - Feather, Light and Welterweight.

    Featherweight 40-60

    Petey Scalzo
    Richie Lemos
    Jackie Wilson
    Jackie Callura
    Phil Terranova
    Sal Bartolo
    Willie Pep
    Sandy Saddler

    Lightweight champs 40-60
    Lou Ambers
    Lew Jenkins
    Beau Jack
    Juan Zarita
    Ike Williams
    Jimmy Carter
    Lauro Salas
    Paddy Demarco
    Wallace Smith

    Welterweights - 40-60

    Henry Armstrong
    Fritzie Zivic
    Freddie Corchrane
    Mart Servo
    Ray Robinson
    Johnny Bratton
    Kid Gavlian
    Johnny Saxton
    Tony Demarco
    Carmen Basillio
    Virgil Akins
    Don Jordan

    Keeping in mind this is just the list of champions and not all the contenders from this period of time that was notoriously corrupt, well, even more so than these days...

    Could Floyd win the world title in this period of time - I think the answer is yes.

    Would he have been dominant 41-0 or a relative number of fights comparable to contemporaries? I don't think so personally.

    There's some serious depth and real ATG consideration to make in all three divisions.
     
  13. SugarRay

    SugarRay Active Member Full Member

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    Nope. Most have Robinson on top. why do you think he's arguably p4p #1 and his best weight was WW?
     
  14. SugarRay

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    wrong! his chin is not as good as robinson's.
     
  15. Drew101

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    No one says that (although Robinson wasn't impossible to hurt). But Floyd's chin is one of his underrated assets, and would have served him pretty well had he been fighting in this particular era. Not saying he would have gone through the entire decade without being stopped, but I do think his defense, and his in-ring toughness would enable him to hang with, if not actually beat, pretty much any lightweight he would have faced at the weight.