Floyd Mayweather Junior - his place in history?

What Mayweather did in his natural weight division means nothing. A man in boxing is judged by how many weight classes they can go into and win against people who are much bigger than them. This is why Monzon is not an ATG, Zoo, Lennox Lewis... and why Ricky Hatton will never be great. Its why B-Hop moved up in weight because he realized you can't have a legacy at one weight class, afterall its your NATURAL weight class your supposed to do good there. You when you fight in one weight class it's all a wash. So what Mayweather did amazing things in the 130 weight division -- big ****ing deal, whoopdedoo. He is SUPPOSED to do good in his naturally weight class, that crap don't count. His career really started when he moved up to 135 weight division.

So... since that is settled. Lets see who he didn't fight, the man that would've made him G.O.A.T...

antonio freaking margarito. THAT'S really what this is all about. If he would've fought Margarito, then sure in for G.O.A.T, but since he didn't he barely gets in at 199 ATG -- if that.

P.S. -- You have to ask yourself --Who CAN'T do good at their natural weight? No challenge there.

 

You're saying had he fought and defeated Margarito, he'd be justifiably regarded as the greatest fighter of all time? Bull****!

Floyd Mayweather even if he defeated Cotto and Margarito wouldn't have had as an impressive resume as Robinson, Leonard, or even Muhammad Ali for that point. Let's put things in perspective. Mayweather is a good fighter, but he isn't the G.O.A.T by any stretch of the imagination. You have to prove it.

 

ROFL I am utilizing sarcasm. What I wrote is the sort of logic that exist in ESB at times.

 

So to be regarded as an alltime great you have to move through weight divisions.

OK - so you really think the likes of Hagler and Ali are not all time greats?

Hopkins moved up probably because he was finding 160 a pretty hard weight to make, and having been ripped off at least once against Taylor probably felt like a change!

 

Fair enough.

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr is an all time great. He isn't in the top 15 however, because his resume is thin compared to the competition around him. Also, he has now ducked contenders in possibly the most talented weightclass today. It's all good saying, "Mayweather would beat them all", or "Mayweather doesn't have anything to prove", but has yet to prove he is worthy of a top 15 p4p position, or arguably even a top 20.

Great fighter, but he didn't reach his full potential.

 

Thats good! I just thought you were the most ******ed person ever!!

 

He doesn't have anything to prove - but where do you stop?

If he beats Cotto and/or Margarito, there would only be someone else mentioned!

It's not that I don't see the point regarding Cotto etc, but sometimes when the desire goes, carrying on is pointless. Much better to go out either as a winner on top of your game, or at the very least on your own terms.

Floyd Mayweather has done it, and for that he should be applauded.

 

Best 130 pounder of all time and a top 30 ATG.

 

Floyd Mayweather has done enough to be considered an all time great, but he hasn't done nearly enough to prove himself the GOAT. He claims to be the GOAT, so of course he is going to get criticised.

He gets applauded for doing what he has done, but he isn't a top 20 ATG.

 

did'nt beat any other great fighters so really he left his own legacy with to much debate, it will be argued his is atg but there are no facts behing it because he was scared to stick around and prove it.

 

To add to that Paddy - note late in the post:

P.S. -- You have to ask yourself --Who CAN'T do good at their natural weight? No challenge there.

Quite a few I would say!

I couldn't name anywhere near 200 fighters better than Mayweather P4P, and wouldn't like to try either.

 

wins over castillo (one being controversial) and n'dou/sosa don't make him a top 5 lightweight. there's quite a few guys who did more than him at the weight.