Floyd Mayweather NEVER DARED TO BE GREAT

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  1. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Indisputable facts here
     
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  2. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Think. Reflect. Floyd Mayweather would have these in need, do things for Floyd first, before Floyd would consider them.
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    Astounding analyst and contender for post of the year!

    I would like to add that some of these fights we are crediting Mayweather with a win you could objectively say he lost, and the JMM fight, Marquez basically showed up a statue and willing to take punishment with no offence to collect a pay cheque, no motivation at all, while a roided Mayweather took too much roids during his 2yr break to bulk up that he couldn't even make weight. I don't even count that fight it was so farcical.
     
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  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    and a pretty washed one at that point, IMO
     
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  4. Mortal

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    Chico and Hatton are no where near great fighters. They arnt even hof worthy never mind great.

    Floyd never beat a great fighter in their prime. This is a fact.
     
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  5. Mortal

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    Prove it?
     
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  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    He had some very solid wins at 154 was coming off of a great performance against mayorga and was highly motivated. Mayweather had never fought at 154 and came into the ring at 150. everyone says dlh was washed up now because they want to write off mayweathers performance but the truth is he was in great shape and one of the top jmw fighters at the time
     
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  7. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Hamed had some fish to fry at Featherweight. Unlike Mayweather, he had ATG's surrounding him (bigger money fights, too) in Morales and Barrera. Why is he going to take a Mayweather fight?
    It doesn't matter who beat who, a duck is a duck and the likes of Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Pac etc. were stylistic threats regardless of whether Mayweather would've beaten him or not.

    Besides, it's one thing to call someone out, and it's another thing to actually make the fight. I've heard Leo Santa Cruz call out Rigo from the high heavens but backs away, same with Adonis Chickenson and many other cases which are far more blatant than this.

    21 world champions? They're mere cereal box belt holders. '21 world champions' doesn't hold weight against the ATG's of history. It's the big leagues, boy.

    For someone as brilliant as Mayweather, I demand nothing but jumping and cutting weight classes to make the biggest fights, also when a fighter enters the radar, stick around to fight him. Mayweather was able to do that with some easy fighters like Judah, but not harder fighters like Casamayor.
    Lomachenko made it clear that this can be done. Therefore, he God damn had to have got down to fight Tszyu and the others. He was scared of Russian school fighters his whole career. This is a boxing career, it's not meant to be neat and comfortable like some new agers are telling you. Boxers throughout history always had it the hard way, fighting people when their opponents are in more favourable condition and taking the victory...hence why condition of the opponent, condition of yourself, circumstances of the fight etc. are important to consider when it comes to assessing resume.
     
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  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Whenever you have a question, go back to look at OP. You can be past prime by 23, 24, 28 like other former ATGs, HOFs. Prime is not down to 'age', it's 'ring age'.
    DLH was past it for the reasons I had given, don't dispute that. Why do you type as though you're definitely right? I was someone who used to support Mayweather to the high heavens, I know the arguments. They're largely bogus.
     
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  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I was baked when I wrote that but I edited to try to explain my arugment. I know he was past his best but he was still a very capable jmw
     
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  10. turbotime

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    Langford, Fitzsimmons, Greb, Etc.
     
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  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I don't want to write off Mayweather's performance at all! The fight went exactly as I expected it to, there was a reason Floyd was a big favorite going into the fight.
     
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  12. SteelShoulders

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    That's an opinion that you're in the extreme minority about. Not going to bother to try and change your opinion.

    It will be funny to see how the boxing world positively reflects on Floyd in the next 3-10 years.
     
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  13. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another example of not knowing much about boxing.

    Floyd fights from the pocket 90% of the time. It just appears that he doesn't becausbe he's extremely hard to hit. If you average oh say 40% power shots landed how could you be running? Likewise, using movement isn't running, it's smart boxing.

    You don't know about the front foot pivot, and thus you think Floyd is a runner. Floyd fights in thet center of ring most of the time, obvious to anyone who's seen him box.
     
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  14. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's get serions, you think an "IV" is changing the substance put in the body ? And you think they waited to take the blood until he could urine?

    How ignorant can one be, they always take blood 1st, many people (especially athletes) can't urinate on demand
     
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  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    **** thread

    JMM was a tune up, p4p 2 as a tune up. That should say something

    Mosley was the best welter, beat Margarito who beat citron and cotto

    Oscar was the best at 154 and the biggest draw

    Hatton was unbeaten, held the WBA welter belt at 1 point and called him out

    Canelo called out Floyd and it was a fight the fans begged for

    Manny, that fight had to be made

    Many fighters ducked Floyd before his first retirement and if he didn't fight the guys on the op list the same people would hold it against him
     
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