"Floyd Mayweather sells more PPV's because he's American"

I'm not denying that. I grew up in an affluent area of a midwestern city and I still saw that ****. It's a part of city life.

Floyd is another midwestern kid... With multiple trainers with world class experience, an established and successful amatuer career in a country where amateur experience often translates to easily gained promotional backing, which leads to big matches...which leads to sales. His rise through the pro ranks was guided and ordained.

Pacquiao on the other hand was fighting without getting enough food to eat and still was blasting out victories, eating a half rice ball a day and giving the other half to Buboy. He became popular in the Phillipines, but he had his years of fighting for scraps in smokers, and essentially teaching himself a lot of boxing. Even when he was cleaning up at lower weights he didn't get a whit of international attention really until he put Ledwaba out. That includes ring rankings, the rich and huge american and european market. His series against mexican icons was the real turning point in his career financially. Now compare that to how Floyd was picked up, promoted, and guided to a belt at more sellable weights.


NO comparison.

 

As usual, ESB posters line up to own the official General Forum bitchboy, MichiganWarrior... :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Well, I guess that proves that Mayweather is more popular in those countries then.... :nut

Classic MichiganWarrior brainpower at work here.

 

Well...it only indicates that HATTON lost some of his luster after losing to Floyd then facing Manny.

Rarely does a fighter EVER produce MORE PPV's after a loss even though he has a different dance partner. Floyd's ability to get the BIG names in the ring before Manny has been "MONEY"!... Floyd's timing outside the ring with regards to getting these BIG fights is just as good inside of the ring.

Floyd rode his WAVE of success and took advantage of it at the right time. He's a smart business man sometimes. But you can't hang your hat on the PPV numbers agaisnt common opponents simply b/c the numbers will be affected after a loss.

 

Part of emmanuel's appeal to the average joe and hoe is his rag to riches life story. Having his grimey AZZ story actually helps him.

Floyd is just the better salesman in boxing.

 

Swarmer has royally spanked MW numerous times now on this thread for his biased and ill-informed posts. It has been a pleasure to watch.

Cue MW scuttling back on and "changing his statement" again... :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Yeah, helps him now, along with being a nice guy.

As far as letting him build a fanbase(which takes time and money), it hurt him completely in comparison, obviously. Think of it as starting a sprint a couple hundred yards behind someone. Even if you're the faster sprinter, you're still ****ed. That he's actually doing nigh equivalent when he's not american and lacked the same initial training/experience/financial backing and impetus is ridiculous.

 

No-one can argue with the stats that prove Floyd has sold more PPVs in the USA and in the UK, but equally no-one can argue that it is not an advantage to sell PPVs in the USA if you are American, and the same rule applies to popularity for any native of any country in the world. Also, greater popularity in only 2 countries (and to be honest the stock of Hatton with casual fans had a huge effect on the disparity between PBF-Hatton and Pac-Hatton) obviously doesn't tell us anything about their relative fame/popularity levels in the hundreds of other nations in the world.

 

Actually....common folk, upper or middle class...doesn't matter. I think you are getting mixed up with the definition of "POPULAR", FAMOUS and IN-FAMOUS.

Floyd is more infamous than famous and he's more despised than popular but for marketing puposes.....it's all the same and may generate MORE buzz based on being seen as the "BAD GUY" or Villan. Floyd is in that role based on how he's acted and the things he has said. And it works for him. but he's not what anyone would really claim as being "popular"...more INFAMOUS.

Marketablity and popularity are rarely the same if it's based on an object or product that is NOT human. But 100% of the time anyone being shopped around as the "FACE of BOXING" or the "FACE" of their respected profession it's based on their popularity for the demographic they are catering too. Manny's endorsement are global, therefore his world wide popularity has got to be something special.

Tiger is by far LESS popular than he once was. Having lost those endorsements indicates just how much popularity he has lost since the whole drama with his mistresses.

Floyd's image is his own creation. Floyd isn't a "ghetto" youth...he's not a "G" or a thug. He's not a rapper. He's one of the best, purest boxers this era has produced. So he limits himself and his popularity based on wanting to portray something he's not. He's got some loyal fans without a doubt but they are not enough to generate the PPV numbers his "Money" moniker produces for being the person in boxing EVERYONE is watching and paying for to see lose.

 

He started later, he gets countless opportunities to try to catch up.

talk shows
random commercials
endorsing various products
etc

Being on Showtime made him more available to people by 3 or 4 times compared to HBO, but he still only unofficially did "1.3mil", less than his rival. Even that # is doubtful coming from bob's mouth.

emmanuel's sprint doesn't have as many yards as Floyd's.