"Floyd Mayweather sells more PPV's because he's American"

They have gone up against each other once in the UK, when Floyd fought an undefeated Hatton (at a bad weight for Hatton, but hey, the casual fan didn't know that) compared to when Pac fought a Hatton that everyone had seen beaten in 10 rounds by Floyd.

Other than that, all they've ever done is compete in Floyd's home nation.

That tells us nothing about global popularity, no matter which way to try to spin it. :good

 

Bro he was in the ****ing olympics , got guided to a title in his first 15(?) fights and then was fighting in vegas casino's in less than 5 fights after that, Pacquiao got his first shot at 25 fights... For a FLYWEIGHT title in some outdoor arena in the philippines somewhere. How many fights did he have to rack up to get his first HBO debut? Who got the Oscar cash cow torch passed first? Who was on PPV first? Who got big promotion first, and as a result huge clout in boxing politics?

I can't believe you're all actually arguing this as "oh they are the same level of popular now" and simultaneously denying that their relative point of origin has any effect on their current careers . Do you understand the time, effort and money that goes into building up a fighter professionally and commercially at the pound for pound level?

As an investment, Floyd has had much more put in and should realistically be getting even more out. He should be SRL levels of popular to Pacquiao's Duran here in America. That he's even competitive is saying something.

Through what? CBS cross promotion? That only happened in this last fight. Showtime has less subscribers and viewers compared to HBO. They're the biggest in Home Box Office viewing easily overall. Showtime until recently was definitely considered the inferior option to HBO for boxing as well, it's just that their team and matchmaking have been so poor and Showtime's been organizing superior events that the tide is turning. Pac's just started cracking the mainstream, sadly. His english and country of origin ARE a deterrent.

 

The slow execution of MichiganWarrior's unjustifiable and thoroughly biased and ill-informed opinion continues...

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Floyd wins every single fantasy match. That's just plain facts :good

 

Mutually inclusive doesn't make sense. You can say "not mutually exclusive". You need to go to school MW, seriously.

It's pretty funny that i opened up a random page on this thread and it was filled with MW idiocy. The biggest idiot on these boards... and thats saying alot

 

If it only happened in the last fight, wouldn't the CBS cross promotion be in effect and show his face to 3 or 4 times the amount of people?:huh

Maybe emmanuel shouldn't mindlessly follow bob over to Showtime if HBO is better?

Mainstream White America loves the fact that he's from a foreign 3rd world country.

He can't force a supporting or hateful reaction out of people the same way Floyd can.

 

Floyd, at this point, knows how to sell HIMSELF, better than any other fighter, IMO. Manny is marketed quite well, but, if he had an edge (even good guys can have an edge), he would outsell Floyd. Floyd takes more advantage of the pre fight buildup, IMO. Also, he picks fighters who appear competitive in the public eye (fighters with titles and such). Even some respected boxing minds thought Marquez would give him a tough fight or win. Not to mention, he does not fight often. So, people actually miss seeing his ring mastery, or his contoversial character on display. All those factors add intrigue to the buildup of the fight. In general, people want to see/hear more from the fighter and less from the promoter, trainer, and conditioning coach (?), when it's time to hype the fight.

 

Arguably yes, but there was no doubt the promotion was for a **** fight. I didn't buy that ****. Mayweather definitely picked a more sellable fight with Ortiz as well. I prefer Manny on Showtime because I think HBO Boxing, while more snazzy and arguably better funded with 24/7, is corrupt, doesn't get boxing, and has a bunch of washed up hacks doing their commentary. **** those guys.

Mainstream white america loves nice, clean cut athletes. That doesn't mean that 'love' translates into sales, as you well illustrate by pointing out the Mayweather hate legion.

 

He always does save that one time with Marquez compared to Cotto.

Fighting someone who is coming off an impressive victory is important. The last thing someone will remember is a person's last fight.

Floyd has the better sales skills, opponents selection, and exclusivity similar to how he has the better tools inside of the squared circle.

 

Floyd isn't even a puncher, he's almost completely on the opposite end. emmanuel is though. We've all been watching boxing long enough to know that the majority of the population loves punchers.

 

Conspiracy theory:

MichiganWarrior = Cottodabodykill?

Both guys from Michigan, and both always got ganged up on.
MW: Gen forum.
Cotto: Lounge.