Floyd Mayweather Snr arrives to train his new student.

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  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I agree, Pauli is made for Hatton.
     
  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    To be fair he was fighting a prime ATG in FLoyd Mayweather jr - pretty much every UK fighter P4P would not have done hugely better - most worst.

    For those British fighters who didn't bother getting in with prime elite in their time I count such imaginary fights as a KO 1 against them. It's all they deserve. :yep
     
  3. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not too sure. Pauli gave Cotto a real good run for his money - traded with him as well. Your not saying Cotto is a bad boxer are you - that Hatton is some how miles superior? What do you think that Hatton does better then Cotto? Which things do you believe that Cotto do not as well as Hatton?

    On top of that, and more importantly imo, Hatton is without Kerry Keyes, and Billy Graham for the first time in his career. No matter what people say it must have an emotional effect.

    Hatton also did not look too great last time out - and the question is does he still have the fire in his belly nowadays.

    Pauli is the NO 1 contender in Hattons division. This is a genuine live fight, and an interesting one.

    Should Hatton win Pauli will be one of the best wins on Hattons record, and a decent scalp who may go on to better things.
     
  4. 9Ball

    9Ball Smeghead Full Member

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    Hatton is a very different(not better) fighter to Cotto. Hatton will apply constant pressure to Paulie and wear him down and eventually Paulie will have nowhere to go. Cotto allowed Paulie to use his footwork and jump in and out and therefore prolong his success.
    Hatton will pressure (not cheat) all night long. I can't see Paulie being able to cope with it and predict that Hatton will win by stoppage inside 10 rounds. :good
     
  5. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    I would've thought Hatton would politely ask Mayweather sr to try not to take any digs at Graham.
     
  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Good post. Its not that Hatton is better than Cotto, but Cotto boxed Paulie too much, Hattons pressure will be much more intense than Cottos.
     
  7. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Yep,he promotes himself rather than his fighter or the sport.
    Bert Sugar is the same;he cares far more about promoting himself as a 'character' than promoting Boxing.
     
  8. Danny

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    Time will tell if Floyd snr training Ricky is productive or not. I personally think it will be. Ricky's defense in in need of improvement & he's the first to admit that.

    Earlier in his career, Hatton showed a good boxing brain at times. Againsr Tackie, Hatton was disciplined & for once, showed a different dimension to his game. That seems like a lifetime ago now though.

    I expect to see improvement from Ricky come Nov 22.
     
  9. rapidHOOK

    rapidHOOK The Champ is HERE Full Member

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    ricky is gonna be a better fighter trust me this was the right move by ricky hatton
    im saying this and i am not even a fan of his i laughed when he got ktfo by preety boy
    so i am not biased floyd will not make him into sweat pea or any bull**** like that but he will give hatton more ways of going about his work more gameplans rather that the same old thing he has done his whole carrier run in head first high out put punch no defense the grab and hold, then the same again

    floyd mayweather knew exactly what he was gonna do, old man grahem is good for one thing and one thing only getting hatton into amazing condition apart from that i do not rate him on a world stage
     
  10. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It seems that people have answered this tosh pretty well in my absence.

    I know you're a Hatton sack swinger but have you ever heard of the old adage 'styles make fights'?

    As others have said, Hatton will more than likely apply constant pressure to PM who simply doesn't have the power to gain Hattons respect. Assuming a competent referee is in place, I expect Hatton to rough up Paulie no end on the inside: PM simply cannot compete in this respect and I do believe that will be crucial. Hatton gets a fair amount of stick on these boards but at the end of the day the only time he has lost is to the best P4P fighter in the world (yes he did beat Collazo quite an underrated win for him actually).

    It seems to me as though your post was an attempt to enhance Malignaggis credentials and thus Hattons resume once Ricky gets the victory. There is no need. I think it will be unanimously considered to be a decent scalp and given the dearth of talent in the division compared to 135 and 147, you can't really ask much more from Hatton, so critcisms about the opponent from me anyway.
     
  11. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never bothered reading the rest as your attitude obviously stinks.
     
  12. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The veteran trainer only joined Hatton's camp Friday. Mayweather began his arduous program at 6 a.m. Saturday by attaching dumbbells to Hatton's hands for a five-mile run.

    Hatton
    ''Floyd was side by side with me all the way in a Range Rover I might add saying, 'Come on, jab, jab, step off, one-two!''' Hatton said. ''It was hard because it's very hilly where I live. As soon as we got back to my house, he jumped out the car and we did a little bit of sparring.''


    Mayweather Sr
    ''You can do the same training Billy did, maybe better,'' Mayweather said at Hatton's new gym. ''Go get yourself a pillow at home and let Ricky hit you that's all he did.
    ''Ricky's got here on his own. (Graham) calls himself a trainer, I call him 'Silly Billy.' He should have left Billy earlier, a whole lot of years ago. You will see a different Ricky, trust me. I'm teaching him things he's never done before.
    ''I'm teaching him how to punch back, chested shots and let his hands go back.''
    Hatton said he knew it was time to leave when Graham began receiving painkilling injections in his hands.

    Hatton
    ''He didn't want to admit to himself that the time had come to finish,'' Speaking of Graham. ''Everyone was telling me to leave Billy earlier and I think it's clear because, slowly but surely, everyone was leaving Billy. I couldn't do it because I had such a close relationship with him.''
    Mayweather has trained Oscar de la Hoya, Chad Dawson and Joan Guzman to world titles.
    ''Floyd will slow me down and show me how to look after myself defensively a bit,'' Hatton said. ''Everyone Floyd has worked with has turned around and said he's the best and improved them".

    Floyd Mayweather Sr.
    "Malignaggi's one thing - this guy's going to do one thing and that's run, and you can't just win a fight just by running," Mayweather Snr said.
    "He's going to run.
    "We can't stop him from running but we can cut him off. We can cut him off and make him fight - he cant fight with this man he's much too strong for Malingaggi.
    "While we don't take anybody lightly, this guy here, I can't see no way out for him."


    Hatton also states that he will probably retire should he lose to Pauli.
     
  13. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Originally Posted by 9Ball
    Hatton is a very different(not better) fighter to Cotto. Hatton will apply constant pressure to Paulie and wear him down and eventually Paulie will have nowhere to go. Cotto allowed Paulie to use his footwork and jump in and out and therefore prolong his success.
    Hatton will pressure (not cheat) all night long. I can't see Paulie being able to cope with it and predict that Hatton will win by stoppage inside 10 rounds. :good"

    I agree with you guys that sylewise Hatton is going to be different to the way Cotto was in his fight with Pauli. Don't forget though that those two didn't just box and move - they traded some of the time, and Pauli took everything Cotto could offer. Perhaps Hattons constant pressure will be too much though.

    I have Hatton winning but I don't think it's a total gimme as some people are saying. Pauli will jab, and move (unless his macho streak overcomes him) - how well did Hatton do against the last guy who did that?

    I hope I'm proved wrong as I would like to see Hatton box on (not retire), and perhaps face Pacman should he win his total mismatch of a fight with DLH.
     
  14. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You came at me first buddy. I know your agenda, it's ok I rate PM as a decent scalp for Hatton, have no fear.

    But the Cotto comparison was ludicrous. Simple as.
     
  15. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree, and that is my opinion. The reason partley why Pauli is a scalp is because of his performances against Cotto. As I stated also, Pauli took the best Cotto could offer, they didn't just box, they traded a fair few times. I understand that Hattons pressure will be different, and perhaps too much.

    I have no agenda, I don't mind Hatton, and quite like guy. I have no problems saying that. I just honesty don't think this fight is going to be as easy as people are making out. I can see how it could be an easy win for Hatton, but also I can see how he might struggle - taking everything into account (styles, new trainer etc). There is even a chance that Floyd Sr may poison Hattons style.

    Anyway, no problems dude, I'm a bit grumpy today. ;)