Floyd Mayweather takes swipe at Muhammad Ali while ranking greatest boxers

Okay but you know Tyson and Holyfield were more skilled and the only complaint you have is A) Tyson didn't have great stamina so took breaks inside and B) Holyfield could adapt to fight to other strategies late in his career

 

1-Berto and Guerrero weren't exactly house hold names or highly rated when Floyd fought them. He could fight have fought Luis Collazo and earned 40 million+ easily with good promoting. That's not an excuse if the conversation is about him facing all kinds if styles and proving he's TBE.

2-Pacquiao and Cotto both had tons of mileage on the clock and had been through numerous wars, stoppage losses, intense training camps, and more than 40 fights a piece. Are we forgetting pacquiao fought marquez and was brutally KO'd, or his wars with Barrera, Morales, and Bradley? What about cotto's face being turned into a leaky faucet by margarito? They also had a far more aggressive style than Floyd who was only 1 year old than Pac and about 3 or 4 years older than Cotto. It's disingenuous to say "BuT fLoYd WaS oLdEr".

I agree that Floyd had indeed called out Mosley and dlh but they avoided him until they got old. Fair point. It's also fair to point out Floyd's hypocrisy in ignoring so many prime 147 and 154 pound fighters.

3-I would hardly call Berto, Ortiz, or Guerrero "big threats" yet those fights were on PPV.

 

I never agreed that tyson and holyfield were more skilled. More well rounded sure, but you're comparing apples to oranges. You claimed Frazier lacked skill and had poor defense (ironic given how much holyfield got nailed upside his head or Tyson's numerous KO losses), so im asking you to compare apples to apples and tell me which swarmer/inside fighters at heavyweight had better skill and defense than Frazier? Last time asking.

 

An decapitated by Frazier

 

The great Chris Eubank Sr putting some kid in his place regarding Ali's ability

1m10s to 2m10s

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Floyd is top 10 with ease. And so is Pacquiao.

 

Holyfield was far more skilled than Frazier and would beat the **** out of him.

 

Floyd is not Top 10

 

I mean, I see Alis accomplishments minimized on this board quite frequently

 

Yes he is. And I'm no fan.

 

He isn't.

Robinson, SRL, Duran, Pep, Ali, and many others are above him.

 

Count me as a completely unashamed fanboy.

 

I don't see why what he's saying makes him a horrible person. Not this. Wrong, maybe, but it's just his view.

I don't think Ali losing to Norton three times automatically puts him under those guys. He wasn't in his prime and Norton was a hard style for him. He beat people that wrecked Norton. Still, I agree with him that having 2 wins over him is a lot better looking than 3 losses, which might be the real score.