Floyd Mayweather, the greatest of all time?

Of all time? he should be around 17 to 20th ,maybe

 

No argument there! Sugar Ray Leonard was managed very well, until he decided to fight Terry Norris

 

“I don’t fight for legacy. I don’t fight for none of that, I fight for that check. I’m in the check cashing business.”
— Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

Money took a crap on HIS OWN legacy. Why shouldn't I?
As a defensive fighter he is the greatest DUCKER of all time.

He did it for dollars, That's what she said...

ATG = LOL

 

I disagree with everything you wrote.

 

I think #25 is too high for me but not outrageous. I would probably have him somewhere between Top #40-#60

 

upper mid level ATG.

 

ATG, sure but not the greatest of all time. I think you'd be hard pushed to find any non-bias source who thinks that

 

Why would one need to bring a knife to a fight, when one has a sniper rifle?

 

His career was astonishing. Wins over Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo, Gatti, De La Hoya, Maidana, Hatton, Pacman, Marquez, Cotto among many others is hall of fame stuff leading to all time great status. He beat almost everyone from his era.

That aside, Sugar Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, Duran etc would have defeated the above mentioned as well I reckon.

They guys had it much tougher than Floyd and defeated even greater fighters.

Floyd is not my number one, however I have no qualms with anyone that disagrees.

 

Sorry, I know this is not answering the original question of the thread. But would it be to fair to rate Mayweather as surely the greatest since 2003 (extreme end of Jones' peak)? Or, if you prefer to rate him above Jones, then surely the greatest since 1993 (extreme end of Chavez' peak)? That's how I see it. And that's still a hell of an achievement.

 

Great fighter, ATG? Possibly....but...p I s s on him! The last few years he's fighting just to win, not opening up with his talent, merely boxing defensively to get another win.
Let him fight 6-8 fights a years over his career and then let's look at his record.

 

I think it's complicated when subbing in a different fighter for Floyd. Leonard was spent at an age where Floyd was still elite so he wouldn't pull off Floyd's record if everything were the same chronologically. Similarly, Duran became inconsistent in his thirties and likely wouldn't roll through Floyd's opposition for that reason. On the other hand, if Floyd kept Robinson's schedule, he might end up a shell of himself due to hand and shoulder problems and be more of a flash in the pan type.

 

Yeah you are right, hard subbing them in.
I'm just assuming they are all at there best. Times are different so again hard to compare eras