Floyd Mayweather v The All-Time Greats

I do agree with you guys in a way but dont you guys think its one of those cases of the good old days.

I used to rate Wright highly and still do even now but we now know how Hopkins and Taylor managed to get through.

Locche was great,I loved his style to bits but I think Floyd combines more than just defence.

 

He was throwing his left hand often, just without the snap. Fact remains it was Castillo he was facing. He has had trouble early on with the likes of Judah, old Oscar, and even Hatton(who was hitting him and making a fight of it early on, regardless of what the Floyd groupies say). Oscar was ahead after 7 rounds by my card until he gassed per usual and Floyd took over.

 

What's a case of the good old days? How much footage of the fighters listed have you seen? I've seen limited footage of quite a few and don't really feel the need to comment, but of the ones I've seen good footage of I feel confident in saying Floyd loses to the likes of Duran(unquestionably), Whitaker(again, unquestionably), and someone like Ortiz.

 

Because Pea's at least equal in all of Mayweather's strengths, while holding his own advantages such as the southpaw stance and jab(Mayweather himself admits to having trouble with it, and has shown susceptibility to the jab), as well as having the higher workrate.

Also, Floyd's ability to adapt would play against him here, as he'd be losing early rounds that would ultimately give the fight away prior to pulling even(and that's assuming he can even do that given his disadvantages). Whitaker something like 9-3, maybe 8-4.

 

Then he'd probably lose something like 12-0.

Whitaker is about as far above Mayweather as Bolt was above the competition in your avatar.

 

I've seen Whitaker's fights,I still feel Floyd is faster,he lands snap shots and can employ the shoulder roll better.

 

Floyd has the quickness edge on Whitaker in the fast twitch muscle fibers sense, not in a sense of being more evasive, having better reflexes or ring senses. Whitaker was smoother than Floyd, he just saw things coming ahead of time and didn't need to rely on fast twitch movement because he could smoothly weave in and out of them. They have different kinds of speed.

Floyd has the better shoulder roll because he's the only one that uses it. Whitaker's defense was based more on an elusive, slip and weave style, whereas Mayweather relies on the Philly Shell to roll and deflect shots. Whitaker is better in the center of the ring and his looser style allows him to go on the offensive much more often, as well as allowing him a higher workrate.

You need to study these fighters, not judge based on who's quicker and more explosive, there's A LOT more to boxing than that. I used to think along the same lines you did.

 

I like you comparison but then Floyd is also a better inside fighter than Whitaker and Floyd being taller I think would pose all sorts of problems with Whitaker.

 

Floyd is NOT a better inside fighter than Whitaker. I think that more or less proves that you haven't seen enough of Whitaker period. The guy outdid Chavez on the inside when the situation called for it, whereas Floyd was getting roughed up by Chavez's sparring partner.

 

That may well be the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted on the Classic forum. Floyd has to stay at long range against Whitaker, he gets more or less outclassed on the inside. I agree with Sweet Pea, Floyd has no chance against Whitaker, he makes it competitive but Whitaker has many more advantages then PBF has over him.

I haven't seen enough of Leonard or Gans to comment, but I favor Duran, Whitaker, Ortiz, Canzoneri, over PBF, without question.