Floyd Mayweather -Vs- Alexis Arguello - LWW

:good Floyds movement was better and his workrate was better at 130/135 I agree. I was a tad ignorant there. Durans footwork was much better at 135 as well :deal Floyd's work rate was still too low to beat Duran though. Duran would just walk through boxers that didn't throw enough and couldn't hurt him at 135. Duran bamboozled the more pure boxers with faints. Mayweather doesn't like faints.

No hyperbole just facts. Duran sneered with contempt at nearly everybody he faced He even tried it with Hearns before he got KO'd. Do you think Floyd would be able to land a lot of clean pot shots on Duran? Duran was slick as hell and hard to hit. When Floyd eventually did land clean on Duran, Duran would most definitely mock his power with a sneer of contempt. I almost guarantee it.

 

Duran could also be frustrated and shown to quit when someone didn't play his game or got outboxed by guys with movement good defense and speed. I think PBF is a bad match up for Duran.

 

If anyone could it would be PBF. Who won't be deterred by the crowd booing unlike SRL who cared. PBF would fight his fight regardless and if PBF choses to fight on his bike for 12 rounds he could do it against Duran and Duran would have no answer and get frustrated. Pea Whitaker is another guy who would make Duran quit also.:deal Duran has shown he can be outboxed for example SRL and Benitez did.

 

One of his best attributes. I remember during the Dinamita fight when he dropped him in the second round. He didn't bounce on JMM, he went back to boxing as if nothing of note even happen. I sat and watched like :yikes how does he have that much composure.

 

Not at lightweight. The De Jesus 1 loss he was seriously under prepared which he proved times 2 by KO.

De Jesus aside Duran was only ever out boxed by naturally bigger men when he was past his prime years and sometimes unfit or better worded 'not 100%' All his own fault but an excuse backed up by people who were there at the time.

There's versions of Duran Floyd could beat at the higher weights but at lightweight not a chance in hell.

 

Yeah he's cool as hell in the ring a great quality. The only time I really saw him upset was against Victor Ortiz. Hell even when Zab low-blowed him and Roger got in the ring he was calm.

 

This is my problem with Duran fans they always have excuses for his losses and in his wins act like he could walk on water. Guess what? being prepared and living a strict life outside the ring making sure you don't blow up too much between fights is important. That's why you have guys like Hopkins and PBF who stay in shape year round still dominate well pat their primes and why you have guys like PBF still undefeated. Because he comes in 100% in shape and never takes any fighter lightly. That's a flaw in Duran as a fighter a lot of fighters have the same flaw, like James Toney for example, and it hurts them when you rank them but they can't be used as excuses as to why they lost fights. If you don't train hard too bad that's your fault and you must suffer the consequences that occur.

 

It's an excuse backed up by the people who trained him. He underestimated De Jesus and apparently had to be bribed into running off weight he gained through partying and eating like a pig. He was brilliant in the next 2 De Jesus fights, one of them he totally out boxed De Jesus and looked as slick as hell.
You have a valid point in saying Duran could be troubled by boxers who didn't fight his fight but Floyd also has had trouble with pressure and has had performances where he's stated after the fight that he didn't feel right in the ring which is also an EXCUSE. Floyd's fragile hands is his excuse as much as Durans lack of prep was his excuse. Floyd's never lost but Duran fought greater men.
Leonard's excuse after Montreal was 'I fought his fight' Hagler's excuse after fat Duran ran him closer than everybody thought was~ 'I showed him too much respect'

Yes, Duran lost fights through being a pig and it's nobody's fault but his own fault that it has effected his legacy. I think he accepts that.

 

Fair post.:good

 

As was yours :good

 

Stylistically, Floyd has the advantage, but Arguello had the skill and power that I don't think Floyd ever faced.

I might have to say Floyd wins, but can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth afterward

 

Floyd UD Arguello over 12. Arguello sometimes had a bit of trouble working out slick fighters (Vilomar Fernandez, Ernesto Marcel, Arturo Leon to an extent). Mayweather could be troubled by pressure, and Arguello could work in close quite well, but the edge in speed and Floyd's ability to work in close as required probably tip the balance even if Arguello does close the distance.

It's not a whitewash, and Arguello would always be dangerous, but an on point Mayweather wins this more often than not.

Watch Greenlad come in and claim that Mayweather wins this because Flaco is completely unskilled.

 

Is there anyone whose Mayweather doesnt constitute a "bad matchup" or a "Stylistic nightmare"? Log Off and educate yourself!!! Duckweather wouldnt even get in the ring with guys like Arguello and Duran. Hes afraid of a former flyweight FFS

 

130/135 Mayweather is a different animal than 140 above, and was a lot less selective in terms of his opponents.