Floyd Mayweather vs Arthur Abraham...

LOL. You're such a prat. All u do is label ppl alts when u lose an argument!

Why are u nearly crying and labelling ppl alts and trolls because they have posed a question regarding a LMW\MW? Where u schooled that badly on here before that it never left u! You're the one who brought 230lb Qawi into the argument so who's the troll? You're the one who won't produce facts when asked to! Give me these weigh in statistics were Floyd weighed in 15lbs less than the opponent on the scales!

 

So Ortiz put on a stone overnight??

If in fact by some insane miraculous feat of weight gain he did then what are u all whining about then?? That's 9lbs more than the difference between LMW\MW! 2 weights Floyd and Abraham have won belts at!

You just admitted ortiz is a MW! Then have the nerve to scoff at me for suggesting a Abraham fight!

atsch

 

How do you know all about me when youve been on ESB for a month?

Its tiresome & boring repeating the same obvious truths only for you to ignore or distort them. Just the same as it was arguing with your previous alts, I dont know why you keep coming back.

You seem unable, or unwilling to comprehend the difference between a fighters weight at the scales & a fighters weight in the ring, once fully hydrated 24+hrs later.

Its well documented (if you look beyond boxrec) that Floyd was considerably lighter than Ortiz, DeLaHoya & Cotto on fight night, as he was also against Corrales earlier on in his career. Floyd is a small welterweight & tiny at light-middle.

This has been pointed out to you several times by several posters but you refuse to acknowledge the truth because it runs contrary to your troll thread. Its just as bad as your Wlad vs Hopkins thread but not as funny as your Tyson was not a good boxer thread.

 

You really DKSAB, Ortiz weighed 164 vs Floyd & thats not an insane miraculous feat. If you watched the ****ing fights it would be helpful.

Clottey weighed 170 in the ring when he fought Cotto after weighing in at 147. McClellan, Gatti & more recently Chavez have all put on around 20lbs of water weight post weigh-in.

Abraham would likely be over 170lbs vs Floyd, who would be around 152-153. This has all been said to you before but it goes in one ear & out the other :-(

 

Give me the weight for Floyd in the ring vs cotto and a link to these 15lb heavier fighters he has regularly fought? The significant weight a fighter weighs is the one that he scales at! What he weighs come fight night is irrelevant. You're trying to distort weight divisions! You're also trying to turn this personal which is what someone does when they have lost the argument!

This thread is not discussing Tyson, Hopkins, Qawi, Tua or Wlad. I have not made a WK v BHOP thread and your mention of them and your straying off topic only make u look like a twat and a troll! I have posted on ESB on and off for years under various accounts same as many people do there is no law against it. Now stop crying and accept that if Floyd can fight Marquez, Abraham can fight Floyd!

Now does Floyd hold the WBA LMW belt or not? What does that make him? Oh ya the 154lb champ. :good

 

atsch
Spoken like someone who doesn't have clue as to what they're talking about. Learn the sport of log off you pathetic ****ing troll.

 

Abraham is too big stop talking this **** he had a hard time making 160 and now he can't even make the weight anymore. floyd weighs 151 at his heighest and Abraham's weight goes up to 180 in between fights he is much bigger that's like Qawi fighting Pacqiuao because they're the same height and arguing that Pacquiao would be to fast..... Abraham is one dimensional but he got power and he knows how to land the punches he fought and lost against the ebst SMWs in the world and that makes you thing that he isn't just going to walk through Floyd's punches and land a huge shot? Froch is much much bigger than Floyd, Ward is much bigger and even Ward who doesn't hit hard for a SMW hits much much harder than Floyd and he is a top p4p fighter as well and he STILL respected Abraham power. Floyd would NOT beat Abraham

 

'Water weight' **** the long established concept of a division it's all about the H20!

So after listing a load of fighters who have supposedly put on 20lbs (post weigh in) and failing to provide a link im assuming you are saying Floyd is inpenetrable to hydrating and didn't weigh more come fight night then? He is the exception to the rule! Gatti weighs 20lbs more but Floyd never puts on an ounce!

Your talk of hydrating makes u look foolish because you neglect to mention hydration applies to every fighter so if Floyd scaled at 151lbs its reasonable to suggest he was at least 155lbs come the fight! He was also ripped @ the weight so what's a few more lbs??

Also you just admitted Cotto who is the same size as Floyd (and a Floyd victim!) has fought a SMW so what r u whining about then?? :rofl

Anyway stop butting in to another posters debate with me u r not even convincing with your own! Stick to your alt account conspiracy theories kiddo...

 

Not just a stone. 17 pounds.

Its not miraculous, it happens quite a lot. Something you'd know,if you followed boxing.

Chavez weighs 180+ in the ring after weighing in at 160

Are you seriously suggesting that Abraham weighed 160 in the ring when he was fighting at 160???

And if the answer is yes. Are you ******ed?

Abraham if he was even an average middleweight would have weighed around 170n in the ring when he fought at MW.

The fact that he is now fighting at SMW and has weighed more than 160 on the scales in his career than he has weighed under it,means that he was more likely to have been north of 170,when he fought at MW.

Floyd weighs in the low 150s on fight night

Abraham weighs in the low 170s on fight night.

You do realisen that many fights have weigh ins on the day of the fight, AFTER the official weigh ins. Its not like we're guessing about peoples weights!

We KNOW that Floyd weighed 150 in the ring against Ortiz,and we KNOW that Ortiz weighed 164 in the ring. These are facts. [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/chris_mannix/09/17/mayweather.ortiz.blog/index.html[/url]

Floyd doesnt put on much weight after weigh ins, if he could weigh more, he wouldnt be weighing in for a 154 fight at 151, he'd just come in at 154.

Are you trolling or is it actually coming as a shock to you that some fighters cut large amounts of weigh to have a size advantage in the ring?
Gatti
Clottey
Hatton
Margarito
Ortiz
Chavez

All these guys regularly weighed in 15lbs+ heavier on fight night than they did on the scales.

Their weights have been documented.

So have Floyds, the heaviest Ive ever heard of him weighing in the ring was 152 against Marquez.


Thats 20 lbs of a difference.

...Floyd still wins.

 

Infact Mayweather has taken on guys outweighing him by large amounts all his career.

Castillo 1
Mayweather 138 1/2
Castillo 147 1/2

Corrales
Mayweather 136 1/2
Corrales 146

Baldomir
Mayweather 149
Baldomir 162

Ortiz
Mayweather 150
Ortiz 164

And thats just the fights i can find the figures for. You can be sure Cotto/De La Hoya had 10-15 lbs on him

 

I'd be curious to see what happens when Abraham lands his first significant shot

he fought Dirrel and Abraham who are both fast guys and Ward is a defensive master and managed to land big punches on them

Abraham is naturally a much bigger guy used to hitting bigger guys and eating punches from bigger guys

could be a lot tougher than many think

 

side note id rather Ward vs Floyd at 160 with Floyd coming up 6 Ward down 8 seems fair

 

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...bye. :hi: Don't bother registering again.

 

IB, well played sir. Again.

Cleaning up the general one troll at a time

 

Good work IB! the guy is a ****ing troll and a **** starter.