Floyd Mayweather vs Felix Trinidad@ 154

I Knew someone who don't know **** about boxing would say this............

Who exactlly did Hopkins beat, up to that point that was elite let alone a B-class fighter, Allen, Echols, Mecado ????????????????...........................People **** on Roy's resume, but BHOP's was 10x worse before he made a name beating on WW.

A few good fights won't pull the over my eyes regarding Hopkins boring ass, dude has been the most talented fraud to ever step into the ring

 

atsch Oscar's size made up for his age (he wasn't shot) and his gameplan was pretty damn good. Back Floyd up to the ropes with your jab and mix combinations up and down from his body to head.
Then to make sure to steal the last 30 minutes of each round

 

na homie i know **** about boxing and you saying it will be tito vs bhop but 3x worse just sounds ridiculous pull your head out floyds ass

 

nearly shot???? from what? his age? when did he took a vicious beating to be considered shot?

 

your size dont make up for your age where you get that from?

 

The biggest boxing myth is that Oscar swept the first 8 rounds and gave Tito a boxing lesson, depending on preference a lot of those early rounds could have went either way, ODH feeling Tito's power and getting on his bicycle the latter rounds, was the icing on the cake for the judges, the fight may have been contested, but lets not try to act like it was Manny Pacquiao vs. JMM 3 type robbery cause it wasn't, it was a disgraceful performance by ODH

 

Floyd by ud but not without Tito dropping some pain on him ala the swea pea fight....wonky utilizes a different logic with defense Floyd dosent use a shell and is physically smaller than the men who dominated the one dimensional tito

 

I'm surprised you're not favoring Floyd more heavily in this one. Trinidad was by no means fleet-footed- he was kind of plodding more often than not, and Oscar demonstrated he couldn't cut off the ring or corner him to let loose with an attack. Oscar busted him up and boxed rings around him from the outside and Tito barely connected with anything solid the entire fight. I'm not even a big Floyd fan and I still think he's got this matchup handily. If Tito couldn't catch Oscar, I have no clue how he does this to Floyd. Tito's offense was pretty basic, straightforward stalking, and he had no plan B and got discouraged if plan A wasn't working, and it wouldn't work against Floyd. I think you need to have a dynamic, varied offense, lateral movement, some adaptability, and good foot and hand speed to beat Floyd. Tito has excellent power, sure, but I don't think he's nearly fast or skilled enough to catch Floyd. I think Floyd would outbox him clearly just as Oscar did.

 

The same shot fighter wiped the floor with a prime Mayorga who recently went life and death with Cotto, but but but, Cotto at 154 beats ODH, people here is foolish I don't why I bother

 

Tito offense was far from basic, he just got power crazy abandoned his jab and decided to start taking unnecessary punches to land his and get the quick KO

 

Maybe "shot" was too strong a phrase. But he was absolutely far-removed from his prime, not just by age (34) but also because he was an inactive part-time fighter part-time promoter by then. It helps to be younger and have an active fighting schedule. I don't think Floyd's inactivity these past few years has helped him at all either.

Also, stylistically, the version of Oscar Floyd fought was not at his best either. Roach was not a good fit for Oscar at all. He was really flat-footed and attacked in sloppy flurries against Floyd too often. He didn't have anywhere near the same snap on his punches or the variety in his offense or the lateral movement and counterpunching he'd demonstrated as recently as 4 years earlier in the second Mosley fight. He was flat-footed and almost looked like he had a European upright style against Mayorga, too, but Mayorga was a perfect opponent for Oscar to smash from a stylistic standpoint at any time.

For me, the best Oscar was the late 90s version, and the 2nd best version was the 2002-2003 154 pounds Oscar. The 2007 Oscar was far removed from both of those editions.

 

because of the strategy he used. A younger also would have also been a smaller Oscar and would have came with a different approach

 

Tito is just too much for Floyd who lets be honest is really a natural lightweight and moved up for the bigger pay days.

Tito was a killer at 147 , this is a mismatch.

 

Of course late 90's ODH was better, like early 2000 Floyd was better, you can't possibly say he was shot though. He just like Tito got caught in a division he had no business being in, that's it

 

For the record, I actually thought DLH looked very good at 154 (granted not as good as he looked around, say 1998 at 147 or 140 in 1996), and I think Trinidad was slightly better at 154, because the weight cut to get to 147 was hard on him at times (just like it was on Hearns, who was also better at 154 than he was at 147.) I don't think either DLH or Trinidad really got "caught" as not belonging in a division until they went up to 160, where a soft Oscar got clearly beat by Sturm and where Hopkins and later Wright embarrassed Trinidad.