Jesus Christ man. At first I thought you were trolling, but you really are clueless. Look up the word sarcasm then come back and talk to me. Is the Houston school district really this bad? I thought I had it bad with the Philadelphia school district.
Exactly. And what on earth has floyd shown you to make you believe Tito's power would overwhelm him? Floyd has proven that he actually has a decent jaw. Tito has proven that he gets frustrated when someone with a good jaw can box him.
PBF has faster feet faster hands better reflexes better counter puncher better jab better Ring IQ better footwork better defense better stamina. Tito can't outbox PBF so what will he do? Try to load up with power shots and take PBF out. That won't work with a guy like PBF who will take away Tito's left hook and not give him a target to tee off on he will stick and move using Tito's slow feet and looking for the KO against him.:deal
Pea has better defense.slips punches in the sleep.better footwork too. At WW Floyd too stationary.Do not play shoulder roll against a vicious accurate puncher like Tito, you are going to sleep man.
True PBF has never shown any indication of having a bad jaw not only that he has ATG defense so it's hard to land clean on him.
Pea has been on the canvas PBF hasn't.:deal Pea slipped punches better I'll give you that but he had to get way off balanced to do so. It's the reason why I say PBF is a better counter puncher because PBF is usually always in a position to counter unlike Pea who would be all over the place and out of position for the counter. He's not too stationary we're talking about a prime PBF not the one that fought Maidana. When he was prime against Hatton, JMM and Baldo he moved. Hell even against Guerreo a fight past his prime he displayed great movement. A prime PBF could fight off his back foot for a full 12 rounds at WW if he fights like that he wouldn't lose a round to Tito.
Floyd's movement ain't enough, man.Pea moves better, his back does not touch the ropes.Pea was the master of ring general ship, he coul box circles around you. Agreed that Floyd was a better counterpuncher.But styles make fights.Little Floyd is all wrong for Trinidad, you gotta be realistic.
This fight would set an all-time running record. The only way Floyd can win is running for his life yet still managing to land meaningful enough punches to win the round. I really don't think the judges would give this type of running any respect. Tito would land and land hard, whether or not he can land that left hook is another story but at his prime, I can't see Tito NOT landing it within 12 rounds. Floyd can not deal with this type of power, hes never felt anything remotely like it. A washed up, slow version of Oscar who couldn't pull the trigger anymore doesn't count. I think Floyd could win some rounds but he in now way would get Tito's respect, Tito's face was pretty much a mess vs hard hitting Oscar and he still pressed the action in their fight. Little Floyd does not belong in the same ring vs. prime Trinidad. Trinidad was a champion in a champions era, and oscar (or hops) beating him doesn't take anything away from him. Floyd has never faced anything remotely like Trinidad.
Don't agree at all with that. Oscar was MOVING from the first second of round 1, that was in fact his game plan, which made complete sense. Why brawl with Trinidad when you can easily outbox him. Tito isn't someone you want to trade with if you don't have to. And Oscar was never shook by a left hook in round 3, nothing changed, except Oscar kept piling up the damage on Trinidad all the way up until half way through round 10. Also, Oscar didn't have stamina issues, that is a farce. Up until this fight Oscar was very well known for closing out fights in dominating fashion. See Quartey, Molina, Carr, Vargas etc for that. With the style oscar used against Tito, its no wonder his legs were getting shaky and weak in the final rounds. Both men were great fighters but oscar was clearly the better boxer and his awesome jab alone won him that fight vs. Tito. That display of pure boxing was one of the greatest I can remember. Had that fight been scored correctly and Oscar won, it would barely be talked about today though. Its rated in every article i've seen in the top 3-5 worst decisions in big fights. Its fun to talk about though but Oscar got totally screwed there.
Doesnt change the fact he ran like he hit Trinidad's mother all night. He got tagged early on. I know this cause I have seen the shot in slow motion. If it was his strategy to run on his bicycle all night long, he didnt do a very good job conditioning himself while in training.
He wasn't on his bike until mid way through round 10. He was using lateral movement up until then confusing the hell out of Tito. It was hard to even see Tito land a significant punch during those rounds, so many of them either completely missed or were grazing shots or caught Oscars gloves. What was clear as day was tito's bloody nose and shorts, and half swollen shut eye. The only thing oscar failed at was sealing the deal and knocking Tito out but he was methodically busting Trinidad up. There were many times Oscar stuck it straight down the pipe and stood in the pocket and Tito would just freeze and absorb the shots. By the time he'd get off Oscar was already to his left or right out of range, or half step back out of range. But those 4-5 punch combo's were a thing of beauty, and that jab was popping tito's head back all night. Its amazing to say a boxer ran all night yet still managed to land 100+ more punches and do the damage Oscar did to Tito. Oscar was in fantastic condition though, probably the best shape of his career, but sometimes your body and muscle can let you down and not perform how you want. Oscar wasn't gasping for air, the muscle in his legs had gotten weak, lactic acid, hydrogen ion etc build up can do that though. Bouncing like that on your toes for 12 rounds is something we had never seen oscar do before, its constant tension on the quads and muscle contraction. We'd see it in spurts during some fights, but had never tried to do that before or after that fight. And yea, I would have rather seen Oscar go toe to toe, he had the power to KO tito just as much tito had to ko Oscar but Oscar did have the better chin.
First off, Floyd is the better boxer, NOT the better fighter. Second, Tito got outboxed by a PRIME Oscar, a large, hard hitting welter, and 2 big, defensive, power punching absorbing Winky and Hopkins, a jr middleweight and career middleweight. Unlike those 2, there's nothing Floyd could do to physically keep Tito off him. Tito is about the size of Corrales, but he's not gonna be dropping 5 times like Chico did. And third, what Oscar did does not mean Floyd could replicate. He never had Oscar's power and was lucky to fight a faded Oscar at 154. I might give Floyd benefit of doubt, he's a great technician, but I don't think he'd handle Tito's power all that well. I think he might outjab him on speed alone and run most of the fight, cuz the shoulder roll ain't gonna work here. He ain't got the style to absorb like Winky did, who was bigger and stronger than Floyd. 147 I think Floyd has a chance, but 154, his ass belongs to Tito. 2002 Oscar and Shane beat him too. He barely could beat the 2007 version.