Floyd Mayweather vs Iran Barkley at 160

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You’re the casual.

    The specific version of Canelo who fought Floyd wouldn’t have hammered Barkley.

    You think that Floyd had the same style that Kalambay had?
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    A guy who lost to Amir Khan did well against Floyd.
     
  3. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arturo Gatti was beyond shot and Ricky Hatton was fighting 2 people in the ring that night. I'm being serious when I say Cortez laid his hands on Hatton way more than Mayweather did.
     
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  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Gatti was the reigning world champion and Pretty Boy Floyd made him look shot big difference. As for you referring Cortez it sounds like excuses and sour grapes.
     
  5. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Please ref, stop the debate, the Floyd fans are getting destroyed!!
     
  6. ElCyclon

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    The fact that opponents like Gatti and Chicanito are considered big wins for Floyd but DLH gets very little credit for those victories speak volumes about Floyd's resume.
     
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  7. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you honestly telling me that in the 47th fight of his career, having gone life and death 3 times against Micky Ward and only going on to have 3 more fights after his loss to FMJ, the last 2 of which he loses by stoppage, that he was anywhere near his best against FMJ? Pull the other one
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Pull whatever you want. He was the champion and Floyd massacred him. End off.
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Floyd beat De La Hoya as well!
     
  10. Tankatron

    Tankatron Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not pulling anything you ****ing knobhead, just stating hard facts, like THE truth, not my truth, or your truth, THE TRUTH.
     
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  11. African Cobra

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    Shut up dickhead and stop making excuses.
     
  12. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because Iran was not that effective and add that he was very limited on what he could do against a multi talented boxer that's going to end bad in my opinion.
    Iran was heavy handed but he was never a puncher like a Jackson or even say a Benn.
    And his defense was absolutely horrible no two ways about it.
    Mayweather has faced boxers that weighed in at SUPER MIDDLE come fight time and didn't lose all the while Mayweather weighted in the 50s.
    Iran was not that good its just that simple. Huge heart and heavy hands but ask yourself how many top middleweights other then Hearns he stopped?
    He usually squeaked by boxers that he wasn't suppose to have a hard time with and ends up in wars with them.
    I like Iran better then Mayweather in all honesty its just this is one of the worst match ups you could make for Iran - a supreme defensive boxer who is not going to take any chances AND is vastly faster(Mayweather)
     
  13. Loudon

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    All throughout the thread, you have only focused upon their skill sets.

    Yes, we know that Floyd was on another planet in terms of ability.

    We don’t need to question that do we.

    However, the most important thing that you’re missing, is how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

    That is always the most important thing to focus upon.

    Look at Thomas Hearns.

    Look at Michael Nunn in his prime.

    If they’d never have fought Barkley and you looked at how basic Barkley was, you’d have laughed at Barkley’s chances against them. Yet we know what happened.

    Barkley beat Hearns twice, and he caused a prime Nunn all sorts of issues.

    Now it doesn’t matter if Floyd had fought guys who were heavy due to their fight night weights.

    It’s completely irrelevant.

    Yes, Canelo weighed 170 plus on fight night. Yet, he was a small, defensive counterpuncher who didn’t press Floyd. Whereas Barkley was a big tough guy, who wouldn’t have shown Floyd an ounce of respect. And we know that, as he didn’t show an ounce of respect to Benn, Toney, Hearns or Nunn.

    It also goes without saying, that fighting guys who weighed MW’s and SMW’s on fight night, isn’t the same as actually fighting MW’s and SMW’s.

    Floyd never fought beyond JMW.

    Stylistically, Barkley would have backed Floyd up and put him on the defensive. He’d have pressed him and pressured him, hitting any part of him that he could, just like Maidana did. All of which makes Canelo’s in ring weight completely irrelevant.

    Barkley would have rough housed him on the inside giving Floyd no time or space. He’d have backed him up into a defensive position.

    Now honestly answer me this question:

    How offensive minded and aggressive do you think Floyd would have been against that type of a challenge?

    Look at the height, the reach, the weight, the power and the style.

    Your questions of who Barkley beat at MW also have no relevance at all.

    We have seen a crude WW in Marcos Maidana, who was beaten by Amir Khan, give Floyd a nightmare with his style.

    So despite his limitations, Iran Barkley would have been a terrible stylistic match up for Floyd, and especially at a weight that he’d never even fought at before.
     
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