Floyd Mayweather vs Jeff Lacy who would win?????

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  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    If you want an answer to that, I will give it. First of all, he won't be coming in at 168lbs, but at 175lbs plus, while Mayweather comes in at 154lbs. Thats a twenty pound size advantage on a frame double the size of Mayweathers.

    He wins by putting his jab in Mayweather's chest, on his shoulders, on his forearms, etc. He could keep it that basic, and be successful. Thats the truth.

    What is Mayweather going to do? "Pot shot his way to victory"? This is becoming so trite. He is going to have to engage Lacy at some point. This isn't DLH, Lacy has tremendous power and any punch, clean or glancing, will send Mayweather half way across the ring.

    Your comparison to RJJ and Ruiz is FLAWED at a fundamental level. Jones brought very respectable power to heavy, much moreso than Mayweather would bring to 168lbs.
     
  2. dan-b

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    Yup, add it in man.
     
  3. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK, so name me an example of an ATG A+ fighter going up in weight against a C class fighter both being prime (not shot/past prime with no choice to go up in weight cos they got fat) example. Weight is overrated. Floyd UD. And I box.
     
  4. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lacy is a SMW. So why the 175 now?

    And i don't think the RJJ/Ruiz comparison is flawed. The similiarities are that the considerably smaller guy in both cases are so much above the talent level of the bigger guys. And with that, the smaller guy always has a chance. I can see Lacy trying to use his size by simply doing a Ruiz or Hatton style fighting. And that might work. But if that doesn't, PBF does pot shot his way to a victory. The crowd might boo but that's what PBF has to do to win and he could do it. I don't see Lacy landing nothing. PBF would see his shots coming a mile away.
     
  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Besides Tito has a stylistic disadvantage as he relies on power and whereas PBF outboxes. Just look at Spinks-Taylor, Spinks made taylor look bad and as featherfisted Spinks was, Taylor still didnt simply walk through his punches. And Spinks isnt half as good as PBF, and Taylor is a class above Lacy.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    Lacy by KO EASY
     
  7. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    BTW, while you did catch my attention with the banana cake with custard, my out and out favorite is banana cream pie!! Different deserts with blueberries can get my attention as well.
     
  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Lol, did the criteria you just mentioned isn't the criteria I laid forth. I simply stated that fighters climb weight classes all the time and don't find success.

    And to be honest, I can't believe that anyone who has boxed would say that weight is overated. Weight disparities can be overcome, by some fighters and at some incraments, but this weight disparity is too great.

    Your talking about a fighter who started at 130lbs and and could easily make 140lbs going against a fightet who fights at 169lbs and could easily fight at 175lbs or higher. Lacy may be a scrub, but he isn't that much of a scrub. :patsch
     
  9. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Ok, someone I suppose has to break this to you. Here is goes: fighters rarely come in on fight night at the weight that they fight.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for the newsflash. :roll:
     
  11. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    RJJ was an anomoly, a fighter that brought an uncanny amount of his speed and power up to each weight class he traveled. Mayweather to my eye is not bringing his speed up as much as Roy and he clearly is not bringing his power up as much.
     
  12. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    You asked my why he would come in at 175lbs as a 168lb fighter. Why would you ask me this if you understood this?

    Sorry for the sarcasm.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then what criteria are we on about? Were talkinga bout PBF-Lacy, an ATG fighter vs a C class heavier fighter in their prime, so surely the same examples should be used. Anyone could bring up failed attempts of an ATG going up in weight against another ATG, or a B level fighter going up in weight against an A level fighter. This however is a guy 2-3 class above going up in weight against a C class fighter.

    Yes I box so I understand weight. I've fought with guys smaller than me beat the crap out of me cos they were so much more experienced, ive beat up guys 80lbs heavier than me cos they were so inexperienced. At the same time put a guy equally as skilled as me yet 20lbs heavier and yes he would beat that crap out of me. Nobody is disputing that, what is being argued is the fact that PBF has 10* more skill in his left hand than jeff could muster through his whole body. Fighters are separated by skill aswell as weightclass.
     
  14. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But this is a fairy tale matchup. No one said the fight had to be at a catch weight. Say PBF comes in at around 154 and Lacy at 168. I would still favor PBF.
     
  15. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. The important thing here is the huge disparity in talent level. Weight matters if the disparity in talent between two fighters aren't great or similiar. But PBF is THE best boxer alive while Lacy is a C class fighter.