Floyd Mayweather vs Julio Ceasar Chavez @140

So poor men Chavez, Castillo and Maidana did very good against Mayweather yet he makes Chavez look like a sparring partner??? Lol whatever next?

 

You never disappoint us with your entertainment.

 

Oh my.

 

And that has what to with a H2H fight exactly??

Continue.

 

Delusional.

 

Despite the fact he got a gift decision against Chavez's sparring partner Castillo.

 

Mayweather by decision. Fans will say "but Castillo should have won, and he was no Chavez", but styles make fights and Castillo threw a lot of punches and swarmed all over Mayweather. Chavez was more measured and not as frantic. I also think that when they fought, FM had not reached his peak yet, and was still improving. I don't agree with many who say Castillo won, as I thought, although they were close, Mayweather still won those fights. Any time a great fighter, (especially one who is hated by many), has a close fight, that's the one people will point to and say "he should have lost!". People do the same with Tyson and "Quick" Tillis.

Had Chavez beaten Whitaker, then I might say he has a shot, but he struggled with Whitaker's style and I think he would so the same with Floyd Mayweather.

 

Chavez actually averaged more than 50% more punches per round than Castillo did. And, with better accuracy. He was also smarter than Castillo, more skilled than Castillo, and had both better defense and better chin. The Chavez that fought Whitaker was already on the slide and would lose to Frankie Randall a few months later. Offensive, relentless fighters like Chavez generally burn out faster than defensive minded fighters. And, this was 14 years into Chavez' career, almost 10 years after he became a champion.

 

Nice to see the theory that deposits Floyd Mayweather in the same category as Stevie Johnston is still in effect.

 

Chavez would have had a chance, but I think you would agree that Mayweather's style would have created some problems for him at any stage of his career. It would have been a tough fight for Julio. He would have had to jump on him and keep him on the ropes. He started out that way against Whitaker, but then Pernell got better with each round. True, Castillo was able to do it, but I still don't think he won those fights. As I recall, FM came on late and pulled out the last few rounds to get it. It's been a while since I saw those fights though. In any case, it would have been interesting.

 

I agree that it would be a challenging fight for Chavez (at least at first). I just happen to think that Chavez has the perfect style and skills to beat Floyd (who is used to a MUCH slower pace.) Chavez threw more than 50% more punches per round than Mayweather ever did. And, Chavez is the more damaging puncher at this weight.

 

The stats that you’re looking for are (1) the average output of Floyd’s opponents compared to their output against him and (2) Floyd’s output at 140

Looking at Floyd’s output without mentioning that he was shutting down his opponents has no value.

 

The lack of output by Floyd's opponents gave him the best opportunity to win with his sparse punching, defensive style. Chavez fought in a completely different manner. In his prime he rarely stopped punching, throwing 70 plus hard shots per round. His connect percentage may be lower than Floyd's, but, the average number of punches landed by Chavez is almost double that of Floyd. That would give Chavez the edge in points if it goes the distance. And Mayweather does not have the punch to deter Chavez from his gameplan at this weight.

 

You’re debating a guy who thinks that Floyd would have beaten Marvin Hagler.